lmao omg
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Oracle: I'm looking at the report, I don't see the concept of "me too" in here.
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Alsup: Is "me too" in there? Google: Uhhhh I'm confident it's in there Alsup: *to Leonard* Is "me too" in there?
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Leonard: Well, I don't know about the words "me too" but I talk about a related concept.
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Alsup says he can't use the word me too and he has to stick to the "related concepts" since the testimony has to track the report
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(hope that helps answer questions about why Oracle and Google keep fighting over this)
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Leonard: Android has not superseded Java SE in the market.
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Leonard: The first [reason] is that the two products are on very different devices. (Personal computers versus smartphones)
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Leonard: The second reason is that Java SE is just a programming applications platform whereas Android is an entire stack ..
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Google asks if Sun made attempts to create smartphone platform. Leonard: Sun made several attempts to do that and ultimately all failed.
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Google asks about Oracle. Leonard says also failed.
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Here's the analogy to typewriters: A typewriter is not a substitute for a word processor. Once you use a word processor, you don't go back.
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Same with feature phones / smartphones: smartphone consumers do not consider feature phones a substitute.
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[Objection: What about hipsters]
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Oracle objects about this testimony too, Alsup doesn't make a ruling, Google says they'll move on. They move on.
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Leonard continues, but Oracle again objects to it being about "consumer preferences for YouTube" which isn't discussed in the report.
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Alsup: The answer will stand except for the example of YouTube. You'll have to delete that from your memory.
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(Leonard was saying people might want to use YouTube on their smartphones; can't do that on their feature phones)
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Leonard: [Jaffe] made a big deal about how crucial it was to have the 37 APIs. I just disagree with that.
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Leonard: Java isn't the only programming language out there. Says could have used C++.
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We're finally talking about Objective-C.
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Says Objective-C was not as successful before iPhone and now it is.
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Leonard: It's the other aspects of Android that made it as successful as it is.
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Direct over, now Oracle's cross.
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Oracle: Isn't it true that Google told the European Commission that— Google objects that it's a hearsay document.
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It's true, it's not in evidence.
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You guys a very exciting trial thing happened
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Leonard saw this doc in depo, recognized it, and responded to it.
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So Hurst gets to introduce this document, which Google has successfully blocked THE ENTIRE TRIAL
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The document says: "There is a single product market for the supply of all mobile devices whether basic or more advanced."
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BUT IT APPEARS LEONARD IS TRICKSY AND MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE RULES OF EVIDENCE
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