Google: Good point, good point. I'm talking about the package. Not just the declaration, the implementing code. The whole thing.
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Google: So when you say Java was poised to be successful, it turns out the efforts they made were not successful...
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... in terms of building a smartphone, right?
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Jaffe: Well, in that history, there's Android— Google interrupts, "THAT'S NOT" Oracle objects to the interruption
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Alsup lets Jaffe finish, and Jaffe's answer punts saying that Android affects the timeline
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Google: Sundroid failed too. Right? Jaffe: Yes.https://twitter.com/xor/status/733022340859092993 …
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Google: That slide we saw ... didn't say anything about Android? Jaffe: No. (An internal Sun doc, I think)
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Google: There was a time when Java had 80% of the smartphone market? What's that based on? Jaffe says Blackberry and Symbian phones.
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lol. Jaffe says that he didn't come up with the definition of smartphone and that this stat was based on an industry stat.
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Recall, this 80% stat comes from the year before the iPhone announcment.
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Google asks if people at Sun were projecting decline of Java before Android. Says yes, but that their projections didn't go to 2015(?)
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Going through more bad phones that failed.
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A whirlwind tour of shitty phones no one bought
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Sun slide that predicted the market was changing.
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Google keeps showing him charts and projections and Jaffe demurs saying charts don't go to 2010, or some other later date.
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as the owner of a shitty android, i don't think anyone owns anything that looks like SavaJe right nowhttps://twitter.com/nightpool/status/733023868160462848 …
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Alsup says two more questions, then break for the day.
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Alsup takes time to explain expert reports don't come into evidence and that only verbal testimony comes to juries.
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Oh actually we're done for the day
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Jury leaves courtroom. Doing some motion stuff I think.
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Alsup: There's something no one has addressed yet that I think is an amazing thing.
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Alsup: But I don't want to bring it up unless both sides bang on me for trying to influence things.
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Alsup: So you think about that tomorrow morning when I ask a question
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Oracle wants more time, but Google says it's not fair because Google has cut out own direct witnesses and shortened crosses.
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Says it's not fair because Alsup repeatedly said they wouldn't get more time. Alsup makes agreement noises.
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Oracle says it's because of rebuttal witnesses. But Alsup agrees with Google. No more time. Oracle has 51 minutes left.
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Question: do rebuttal witnesses not count to 900?
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They do, says
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