April 17, 2008 -- email sent to the Apache mailing list.
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including patents, etc.
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(Mr. Cooper of the cough drop succumbed to a coughing fit and has fled the courtroom to avoid Alsup's ire)
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(Just heard another cough in the back. WATCH OUT, DUDE)
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He could always appeal the second cough drop to the Federal Circuit.https://twitter.com/Ross_Todd/status/732992051780935680 …
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Mazzocchi admits that he met with Google's counsel before coming to the trial today

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what is happening
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Oracle: Did you ever use the phrase "ripping off" to describe intellectual property infringement?
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Alsup makes her rephrase. Oracle: Did you ever use the phrase "ripping off"? Mazzocchi: Probably.
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Oracle strikes that, then tries again. Oracle: Do you deny describing Android's use of Sun's intellectual property as ripping them off?
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Mazzocchi: I don't remember. If I said it, I don't deny it.
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Alsup says the document can't be discussed in front of the jury.
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Onto cross.
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Google: Mr. Mazzocchi, are you a lawyer?
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Google: What legal training do you have? Mazzocchi: None. Google: Are you a copyright law expert? Mazzocchi: No.
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Google: How often did Apache members ask you for legal advice. M: Never.
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Google: Did you [then] know what the legal standard is for fair use? M: I did not, and I still don't.
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Google wraps up cross, Oracle asks for a sidebar.
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On redirent: Oracle: Do you need to be a lawyer to think of when you're ripping somebody off? Mazzocchi: Yes.
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no further questions for M, we're now in a break.
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Alsup says that jurors are "struggling desperately to understand" this case, and is one of the "most conscientious juries I've ever seen"
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Apparently one juror is staying late, poring over their notework, after the trial
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Alsup asks the parties to let the jurors take their notebooks home over the weekend. (I think they just agreed?)
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Alsup asks the sides to each prep a 2 page "cheatsheet" with what they think are the 20-30 best points that reference exhibit numbers
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Alsup asks if that's something they want to do, and that it's up to them, but "might be worthwhile" given intricacy of the case
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Lawyers are gonna go home and think about this suggestion.
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Oracle asks for another half hour of time. Alsup says he can have it if Google gets another, and also if neither runs past 1 pm.
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*another 30 mins
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Google has refused to agree to add 30 mins on both sides. Oracle says that means then the case only goes to 11 am.
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