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owwww
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It's hearsay so it can't be used to prove "copyrights are real" (I mean yeah, for other reasons as well)
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Alsup clarifies that it's for state of mind, that it's a view different from other programmers who said they treated APIs as uncopyrightable
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Mazzocchi now talking about how Harmony was focused on passing the TCK so they could use the Java ™
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Oracle: Isn't it true that in the course of that dispute with Sun, you believed Harmony should not be released, risking downstream users?
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Mazzocchi says it's because of TM. Oracle says, "doesn't that include copyright?" Mazzocchi gives vague answer, says it includes lots of IP
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including patents, etc.
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(Mr. Cooper of the cough drop succumbed to a coughing fit and has fled the courtroom to avoid Alsup's ire)
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(Just heard another cough in the back. WATCH OUT, DUDE)
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He could always appeal the second cough drop to the Federal Circuit.https://twitter.com/Ross_Todd/status/732992051780935680 …
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Mazzocchi admits that he met with Google's counsel before coming to the trial today

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what is happening
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Oracle: Did you ever use the phrase "ripping off" to describe intellectual property infringement?
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Alsup makes her rephrase. Oracle: Did you ever use the phrase "ripping off"? Mazzocchi: Probably.
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Oracle strikes that, then tries again. Oracle: Do you deny describing Android's use of Sun's intellectual property as ripping them off?
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Mazzocchi: I don't remember. If I said it, I don't deny it.
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Alsup says the document can't be discussed in front of the jury.
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Onto cross.
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Google: Mr. Mazzocchi, are you a lawyer?
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Google: What legal training do you have? Mazzocchi: None. Google: Are you a copyright law expert? Mazzocchi: No.
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Google: How often did Apache members ask you for legal advice. M: Never.
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Google: Did you [then] know what the legal standard is for fair use? M: I did not, and I still don't.
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Google wraps up cross, Oracle asks for a sidebar.
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On redirent: Oracle: Do you need to be a lawyer to think of when you're ripping somebody off? Mazzocchi: Yes.
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no further questions for M, we're now in a break.
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Alsup says that jurors are "struggling desperately to understand" this case, and is one of the "most conscientious juries I've ever seen"
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Apparently one juror is staying late, poring over their notework, after the trial
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Alsup asks the parties to let the jurors take their notebooks home over the weekend. (I think they just agreed?)
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