Brenner discharged from his subpoena and released.
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and in order to know whether it knows correctly it would have to know what the correct behavior is... Lee: Uh-huh.
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Lee: And you would have consult the specification for that?
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Lee did consult the Java specification on the Java website.
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Oracle also asks him if he read the copyright notices on the specification. (It's the spec license, btw). Lee says he did.
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Lol, last week we confirmed that Eric Schmidt has no idea who Robert Lee, who worked at Google, ishttps://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/730417710694178817 …
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Stefano Mazzocchi on the stand now.
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Mazzochi has served on BOD for Apache Software Foundation. He was a mentor on the Apache Harmony project.
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Oracle: Is it true that you have a Twitter account, sir?
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Oracle: And is it true that you've described yourself as one of three people who created Apache Harmony?
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Oracle: Is true you've said you saved Java by creating Apache Harmony? Mazzocchi: I can't say the state of mind I was in when I wrote that.
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Sorry, that's "tried to save Java*
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Annette Hurst posed that question to him, btw, in case you wanted a new worst nightmarehttps://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/732986769390460928 …
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Oracle: Mr. Mazzocchi, are you familiar with the Internet Archive?
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Showing him a Wayback Machine printout of the ASF website.
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April 2008, Sam Ruby (?) was listed as VP of Legal Affairs at ASF.
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An email is being offered into evidence.
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April 17, 2008 -- email sent to the Apache mailing list.
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Mazzocchi apparently sent a reply, he's dragging out his answers whenever Oracle asks him things like "Is it not true you sent a reply"
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He says he doesn't remember but since the print-out in front of him, he won't deny it.
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Went to go look for this email but apparently searching for emails on the apache lists is a nightmare that people google about a lot
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owwww
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It's hearsay so it can't be used to prove "copyrights are real" (I mean yeah, for other reasons as well)
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Alsup clarifies that it's for state of mind, that it's a view different from other programmers who said they treated APIs as uncopyrightable
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Mazzocchi now talking about how Harmony was focused on passing the TCK so they could use the Java ™
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Oracle: Isn't it true that in the course of that dispute with Sun, you believed Harmony should not be released, risking downstream users?
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Mazzocchi says it's because of TM. Oracle says, "doesn't that include copyright?" Mazzocchi gives vague answer, says it includes lots of IP
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including patents, etc.
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