We're like five layers deep in misunderstandings right now.
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Oracle presenting video clips.
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First up, Brian Swetland (2011 depo).
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Swetland works at Google.
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Looking at 2006 email. "we are building a java based system; that decision in final java is easier to debug"
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"i'm serious here; gdb vs. java ide debuggers - think about it java is denser java is safer"
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Another email chain, regarding Sun's open source libraries for Java.
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Swetland says Google chose not to use them because the "policy" at the time was not to use GPL code
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Swetland says, "I heard a claim at some time [May 2006 or so] that Sun owned copyright to the APIs"
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2011 depo of Robert Lee, then CTO of Square, before that he was at Google and worked on Android
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Oracle: you know, Google was developing an implementation of the Java API,
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and in order to know whether it knows correctly it would have to know what the correct behavior is... Lee: Uh-huh.
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Lee: And you would have consult the specification for that?
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Lee did consult the Java specification on the Java website.
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Oracle also asks him if he read the copyright notices on the specification. (It's the spec license, btw). Lee says he did.
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Lol, last week we confirmed that Eric Schmidt has no idea who Robert Lee, who worked at Google, ishttps://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/730417710694178817 …
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Stefano Mazzocchi on the stand now.
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Mazzochi has served on BOD for Apache Software Foundation. He was a mentor on the Apache Harmony project.
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Oracle: Is it true that you have a Twitter account, sir?
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Oracle: And is it true that you've described yourself as one of three people who created Apache Harmony?
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Oracle: Is true you've said you saved Java by creating Apache Harmony? Mazzocchi: I can't say the state of mind I was in when I wrote that.
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Sorry, that's "tried to save Java*
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Annette Hurst posed that question to him, btw, in case you wanted a new worst nightmarehttps://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/732986769390460928 …
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Oracle: Mr. Mazzocchi, are you familiar with the Internet Archive?
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Showing him a Wayback Machine printout of the ASF website.
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April 2008, Sam Ruby (?) was listed as VP of Legal Affairs at ASF.
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An email is being offered into evidence.
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April 17, 2008 -- email sent to the Apache mailing list.
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Mazzocchi apparently sent a reply, he's dragging out his answers whenever Oracle asks him things like "Is it not true you sent a reply"
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