Yeah, basically their story is Google innovated for smartphones in a way Sun-Oracle didn't/wouldn't/couldn't https://twitter.com/BlueSpaceCanary/status/732635035745026048 …
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Any new precedent that rustles out of this second round (say, on appeal), I think, is not nearly as potentially damaging
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On top of that, I think that the existing precedent coming out of Fed Cir is unlikely to be reused—runs counter to norms
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Basically this litigation happened because Oracle is douchey enough to do it, and Google is rich enough to take it
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I think the damage is going to come in the form of chilling effects, not in future litigation.
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ANYWAYS we're back to the trial. Looking at a November 2015 depo of a Google employee (didn't catch his name)
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It's Urs Hölze.
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He's explaining the GPL and saying it's hard to know whether you're compliant or not.
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Next video witness. Dec 2015 video depo with Reto Meier, also Google employee.
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Oracle [tape]: Is it your understanding that the Java API packages are distinct from the Java programming language? Meier: Yes.
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Note that this is different from what Donald Smith (Oracle) said in his disaster depo (said they were inseparable) before he retracted.
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Another video depo of a Google employee from late 2015. Testifying that using Java attracted developers.
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Theoretically possible that the same question could go up to the Supreme Court again in this *same case*https://twitter.com/lairek/status/732644826617876480 …
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But that would be *insane*
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<Back to depo> The last witness (who I didn't think said anything interesting?) was a 30b6 witness -- meaning, representing Google as a corp
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Election will be over by the time it goes through Fed Cir and then goes on petition for cert againhttps://twitter.com/confusedcharlot/status/732645642372276225 …
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Oracle is now on direct with Douglas Schmidt.
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I'm going to shorten as "DS" to distinguish from Eric Schmidt.
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DS is a professor of computer science at Vanderbilt. Basically, Astrachan's opposite number.
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DS was at DARPA at one point, also CTO at several companies.
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Also worked with NASA on Mars lander?
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Damn, Douglas, back at it with the very dense slides with diagrams that are supposed to explain Java
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3D block made up of many many color-coded bricks with text labels so tiny I cannot read them from the second row of the gallery
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Top layer is "Java Language," middle is "Java API Packages" and bottom is "Java Virtual Machine."
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Like Astrachan, DS has been here for the trial, watching, waiting.
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Slide now shows "Software Map of the Java SE 5 APIs," a cluster/net style visualization
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Now, an overlay of the 37 APIs across the dispersed net, how they "touch with the classes and interfaces" of the APIs.
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The map of the APIs is shows BOTH declaring code and implementing code.
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The map only shows packages and classes, doesn't show methods because there would be too much info.
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Third diagram now draws lines between classes, relationships between classes, interfaces
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