Google: You've had dozens of meetings with Oracle's lawyers to discuss this case, right? not sure where this is going
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I gotta say, Purcell (Google) is doing a great job at cross. Sounds really confident with all the technical details.
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Google: Java ME wouldn't pass the compatibility with Java SE, is that correct? Reinhold: Correct. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
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God, Purcell really goes for a slowly built-up burn
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Google: Before the release of OpenJDK, there was no way for a developer to pick and choose which of Java SE packages to use? Reinhold: Yes.
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Google: That means Java SE was a large system that was does not scale down very well, right? Reinhold demurs oh my g
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Google then plays back depo tape, where Reinhold says JDK is "a large system that does not scale down very well" oh my godddddd
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In an email from Reinhold in 2010, Reinhold says that for all intents and purposes, "[One Java] is dead."
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Oracle pulled the plug on One Java at time of acquisition because it "did not see the project as consistent with its business goals"
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Another email from someone else says One Java (still not sure what this is) was the competitor to Android, should not have been terminated
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Sorry I'm still stuck on "does not scale down well"
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That's a March 2016 depo, Google didn't have that in the last trial
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Yeah, basically their story is Google innovated for smartphones in a way Sun-Oracle didn't/wouldn't/couldn't https://twitter.com/BlueSpaceCanary/status/732635035745026048 …
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Particularly interesting after Reinhold disputed that SE was that much different from ME!
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Redirect went by fast, no recross, Reinhold has been released.
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Oracle's next witness is Douglas Schmidt. Currently reading in a stipulation.
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We're now reading in a stipulation that lists how many # of declaring code statements used per Android version.
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So Alsup is reading out dessert names followed by numbers.
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15 min break.
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Going through some of the slides, Google says they have argumentative language, Alsup says "It's not as bad as you think it sounds"
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Oracle saying presentations are business records, Alsup gets mad & says they might as well bring in "wheelbarrows" of "internal propaganda"
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Gets indignant and flaps a page around asking how "you lawyers" can even think that
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This is a really good question -- I think the damage has already been done.https://twitter.com/George__Lee/status/732640995570028544 …
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Any new precedent that rustles out of this second round (say, on appeal), I think, is not nearly as potentially damaging
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On top of that, I think that the existing precedent coming out of Fed Cir is unlikely to be reused—runs counter to norms
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Basically this litigation happened because Oracle is douchey enough to do it, and Google is rich enough to take it
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I think the damage is going to come in the form of chilling effects, not in future litigation.
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ANYWAYS we're back to the trial. Looking at a November 2015 depo of a Google employee (didn't catch his name)
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It's Urs Hölze.
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