Screven: Furthermore it doesn't pass the TCK and it doesn't have a TCK license.
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The rest of the code is at issue re: fair use. That's it.
Someone in the gallery coughs. Alsup: Who's that coughing and hacking? Take this cough drop back there. PULLS OUT A COUGH DROP
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Van Nest (named partner of Keker & Van Nest) passes the cough drop from Judge William Alsup to person in gallery
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WHERE DID THAT COUGH DROP COME FROM
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Oracle calls Mark Reinhold as their next witness.
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Mark Reinhold was at Sun before he went to Oracle, he worked on the Java platform including API design.
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Seems like Reinhold is Joshua Bloch's opposite number?
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Reinhold is defining the Java platform right now.
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Reinhold: The Java API packages are a collection of ready-to-use applications...
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... provides ready functionality so developers don't have to write from scratch every time.
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Reinhold saying that Java ME (Micro Edition, for flip phones) APIs contain same structure, sequence, and organization as SE.
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Recall that Google's story is that Android "transformed" SE declaring code, and that SE—which is for desktop—cannot work with phones
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So what Google saying is that the work being taken doesn't even compete in the same market Android.
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Oracle, through Reinhold, is trying to say that it's the same damn thing because shares similarities to ME—which, again, runs on flip phones
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Running through a very nice slideshow right now, once again we're looking at a slide with the full list of 37 API packages.
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Oh no we're back to "let's try to explain APIs to the jury" again
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current slide: "The Java API Package is Like a Book Series" with a picture of the entirety of the Harry Potter series
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from file cabinets to hamburger menus to the harry potter series
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Reinhold: Declaring code is source code that introduces an API element.... communicates to devs overall structure & organization of the API
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I'm thinking again about Oracle's interoperability stance. Basically they want copyright law to make language environments unforkable.
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On the one hand: This protects commercial business models.
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On the other hand: The commercial business model, which insists Java the *language* is free, is based in *ubiquity.*
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Yet it refuses to let the environment compete in a free market of forked environments. Ubiquity without proof of efficiency.
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It's circular protectionism.
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Anyways Reinhold is now describing the creation process for APIs, collaborating with colleagues, getting together with whiteboards...
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It's not an easy process.
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Reinhold: Names are certainly a creative part [of the API design process].
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Reinhold: ...The shorter the name, the nicer it looks, but there are fewer short names than long names.
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Reinhold says it's "laughably simple" to refer to the APIs as "labels."
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Not sure how well this plays for Oracle; on the one hand it throws doubt on previous testimony,
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but otoh jury might resent attempt to throw doubt on testimony they actually understood lol
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