Now Google is submitting a document that Oracle(?) presented to the European Commission (what is this?)
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Redirect.
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Oracle: Is Android a *air quotes* independent implementation?
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Screven: It's an independent implementation of *subset*—it doesn't comply with the restrictions that are required...
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Screven: .. it doesn't implement ALL of the API.
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Screven: It means that a programmer who's writing Java must either program for Android or standard Java environment.
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Screven: Furthermore it doesn't pass the TCK and it doesn't have a TCK license.
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Holy mother of god, the position Oracle is taking is *untenable* for the industry
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If you don't take ALL of the API it's not interoperable, it's not fair use. If you take all of the API, it's interoperable but not fair use
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Oracle basically proposing that it's intrinsically impossible to make fair use of an API unless you paint it as code on a canvas
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Alsup is now explaining something to the jury about a stipulation and I think my coffee is cool enough to drink now so
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Alsup explaining that the parties agree that 60+ packages were fair use, and that the trial is over the remainder 37.
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Sorry, I think 62 classes? Someone correct me on this, I gotta drink this coffee
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OK I got it hella wrong. 170 lines of code from 62 classes are technically necessary to use Java language.
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The rest of the code is at issue re: fair use. That's it.
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Someone in the gallery coughs. Alsup: Who's that coughing and hacking? Take this cough drop back there. PULLS OUT A COUGH DROP
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Van Nest (named partner of Keker & Van Nest) passes the cough drop from Judge William Alsup to person in gallery
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WHERE DID THAT COUGH DROP COME FROM
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Oracle calls Mark Reinhold as their next witness.
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Mark Reinhold was at Sun before he went to Oracle, he worked on the Java platform including API design.
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Seems like Reinhold is Joshua Bloch's opposite number?
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Reinhold is defining the Java platform right now.
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Reinhold: The Java API packages are a collection of ready-to-use applications...
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... provides ready functionality so developers don't have to write from scratch every time.
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Reinhold saying that Java ME (Micro Edition, for flip phones) APIs contain same structure, sequence, and organization as SE.
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Recall that Google's story is that Android "transformed" SE declaring code, and that SE—which is for desktop—cannot work with phones
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So what Google saying is that the work being taken doesn't even compete in the same market Android.
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Oracle, through Reinhold, is trying to say that it's the same damn thing because shares similarities to ME—which, again, runs on flip phones
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Running through a very nice slideshow right now, once again we're looking at a slide with the full list of 37 API packages.
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Oh no we're back to "let's try to explain APIs to the jury" again
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