Google: Oracle used all the declaring code word for word, that's correct, yes? Screven: Yes.
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BTW, I did not 100% understand Screven's objections to Google's characterizations of the spec license.
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I'll listen carefully at redirect to see if I can figure out what he was saying.
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The European Commission document mentions that "a license from Sun is not a prerequisite for development" lol
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I believe this goes to who DOES need a license (?) "Only vendors that modify the source code of the reference implementation or create
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independent implementations and want to distribute their products as Java-compliant need TCK licenses (see rows 5-6)"
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Cross is over.
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Redirect.
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Oracle: Is Android a *air quotes* independent implementation?
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Screven: It's an independent implementation of *subset*—it doesn't comply with the restrictions that are required...
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Screven: .. it doesn't implement ALL of the API.
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Screven: It means that a programmer who's writing Java must either program for Android or standard Java environment.
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Screven: Furthermore it doesn't pass the TCK and it doesn't have a TCK license.
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Holy mother of god, the position Oracle is taking is *untenable* for the industry
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If you don't take ALL of the API it's not interoperable, it's not fair use. If you take all of the API, it's interoperable but not fair use
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Oracle basically proposing that it's intrinsically impossible to make fair use of an API unless you paint it as code on a canvas
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Alsup is now explaining something to the jury about a stipulation and I think my coffee is cool enough to drink now so
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Alsup explaining that the parties agree that 60+ packages were fair use, and that the trial is over the remainder 37.
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Sorry, I think 62 classes? Someone correct me on this, I gotta drink this coffee
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OK I got it hella wrong. 170 lines of code from 62 classes are technically necessary to use Java language.
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The rest of the code is at issue re: fair use. That's it.
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Someone in the gallery coughs. Alsup: Who's that coughing and hacking? Take this cough drop back there. PULLS OUT A COUGH DROP
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Van Nest (named partner of Keker & Van Nest) passes the cough drop from Judge William Alsup to person in gallery
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WHERE DID THAT COUGH DROP COME FROM
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Oracle calls Mark Reinhold as their next witness.
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Mark Reinhold was at Sun before he went to Oracle, he worked on the Java platform including API design.
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Seems like Reinhold is Joshua Bloch's opposite number?
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Reinhold is defining the Java platform right now.
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Reinhold: The Java API packages are a collection of ready-to-use applications...
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... provides ready functionality so developers don't have to write from scratch every time.
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