Catz looks like she's thinking, "Ummm, *bat* mitzvah?"
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Screven says no, he was in favor because Java was very important to Oracle.
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Screven testifying about the specification license, saying that the declaring code is the central part of the specification
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Says the specification license allows developing apps that call the APIs, but that it also addresses independent implementations.
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Note that in spec license, it says license is granted "under any applicable copyrights or patent rights it may have in the Specification"
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*applicable* key word here
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The spec license requires that the independent implementation pass the reqs of the TCK.
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Screven: A clean room is when I'm intentionally trying not to rely on a specification.
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mmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Oracle's story re: interoperability is full of holes and I'm not sure the jury is seeing that.
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Screven testifies that prior to acquisition, Oracle operated under Sun's specification license and had to take and pass the TCK test.
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Screven says that the license to create independent implementation is premised on passing the TCK.
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(Is Oracle saying Google fucked up by not making their implementation close enough to Sun-Oracle's?)
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(wut)
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Here is an interesting theoretical question. Is there copyrightable material of which there is no possibility of fair use?
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if Google had deviated much much further from Java, is there no point Oracle can agree to fair use?
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By "Java" I mean the Sun-Oracle implementation
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Screven testifies that Apache Harmony has been discontinued. Screven: It's now in the attic.
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Jury still alert but I think I just caught some attorneys nodding off in the gallery.
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We're due for a coffee break, I think. Now we're talking about Classpath, so everyone who's playing the GNU drinking game gets to drink
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Direct is over, now we're at a 15 min break.
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Bringing back the jury.
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We're now on Google's cross of Edward Screven.
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Google reiterating Screven's work experience, basically attempt to discred his testimony re: spec license b/c not familiar with ~industry~
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Google rolling through iterations of same question re: "You didn't work at Sun when _______ "
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Screven has only ever worked at Oracle, for T H I R T Y years, he is an Oracle lifer
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supposedly he took a leave of absence for some months to do contract work but well T H I R T Y years
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You didn't work at Sun while _____, did you?
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ad libs that one
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You didn't work at Sun while Java was being developed, did you?
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