10-K report says: "We have also released Java SE, Java EE and Java ME under an open source license."
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2010 email from Kurian to Ellison (Catz cc'd), "I understand you're meeting Eric Schmidt [soon]," attaches slideshow for him
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Google: Oracle and Google ultimately did not agree to a deal to work together on Android, is that true? Catz: That's right.
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Google: Oracle switched strategies to threaten Google, is this right? Catz: We sued Google. Google: You filed suit in August 2010?
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(Timeline note: this is SHORTLY after this email mentioning that a meeting with Ellison/Schmidt re: JavaPhone was about to happen)
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Google trying to cross Catz on another email, Alsup sustains Oracle's objection to it. Google moves on.
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Google now crossing Catz on Ellison's Java One statement that it was "very exciting" to see Android and that he was "flattered"
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IMO both Google and Oracle have succeeded in making each other look awful.
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Not sure what jury thinks but they're still alert and paying attention.
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We're in redirect. Catz is explaining some of their public statements, like the ones made at Java One.
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Basically saying the statements were political/tactful, because they had to reassure people in the wake of the Sun acquisition
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Judge Alsup is returning to the "thou shalt not steal conversation." Alsup refers to it as the "bar mitzvah conversation."
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Catz looks like she's thinking, "Ummm, *bat* mitzvah?"
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B/C of this testimony, Alsup is saying that an otherwise inadmissible piece of evidence is admissible to balance out [bat] mitzvah story
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Wait, what's the deal with the email? Google just said they have no more questions for Catz & Catz is excused
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The heck!
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Oracle calls Edward Streven as a witness.
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but I wanted to hear more about the bat mitzvah
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*Edward Screven. Chief Corporate Architect at Oracle.
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Has worked at Oracle for ~30 years. Alsup: Wait, how old are you? Screven: I'll be 52 years old. Alsup: I would have thought he's 29.
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Was involved in Oracle's decision to acquire Sun.
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Screven was very much in favor of the acquisition.
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Oracle: Were you in favor of the deal because it would give you a chance to sue Google? Google: Objection!
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Screven says no, he was in favor because Java was very important to Oracle.
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Screven testifying about the specification license, saying that the declaring code is the central part of the specification
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Says the specification license allows developing apps that call the APIs, but that it also addresses independent implementations.
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Note that in spec license, it says license is granted "under any applicable copyrights or patent rights it may have in the Specification"
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*applicable* key word here
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The spec license requires that the independent implementation pass the reqs of the TCK.
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Screven: A clean room is when I'm intentionally trying not to rely on a specification.
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