Oracle tries to enter a single page from the doc, Alsup looks it over and refuses, says it's still hearsay and not a business record.
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Safra Catz was at a bat mitzvah ("which is like a bar mitzvah but for girls") when she ran into Google's general counsel.
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This was March 2012. Catz: He said to me, "Google is a very special company and the old rules don't apply to us."
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Catz: I replied, "'Thou shalt not steal' is an oldie but a goodie."
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Google: As a general matter, don't you think it's fair that the world should be able to rely on the statements made by CEOs?
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Catz: Yeah, it would depend on what I'm talking about.
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[we're now in cross btw]
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Google: There's been a lot of statements by Chief Executive Officers about your software, yes?
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(Basically Google is trying to get Catz to agree that it's fair to rely on Schwartz or Ellison saying Java is free, Androind is good)
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10-K report says: "We have also released Java SE, Java EE and Java ME under an open source license."
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"... generally open source software licenses permit the liberal copying, modification and distribution of software"
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"As a result of such release, there could be an impact on revenue related to this intellectual property"
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"... we may no longer be able to exercise control over some aspects of the future development of this IP."
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Catz acknowledges Oracle knew these things as they acquired Sun.
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Google presses Catz on "killing" the Java phone. Catz acknowledges that Ellison was the one who killed the project.
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Catz: We decided that we should not make a physical phone.
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Now looking at an email from Thomas Kurian (?) to Catz.
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There's a presentation attached.
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Presentation is weighing Oracle's options re: Java phone. Presentation says "very limited internal expertise to make smart decisions"
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Recommendation is to hire a "superstar" team of 3-4 people to build the JavaPhone
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2010 email from Kurian to Ellison (Catz cc'd), "I understand you're meeting Eric Schmidt [soon]," attaches slideshow for him
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Google: Oracle and Google ultimately did not agree to a deal to work together on Android, is that true? Catz: That's right.
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Google: Oracle switched strategies to threaten Google, is this right? Catz: We sued Google. Google: You filed suit in August 2010?
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(Timeline note: this is SHORTLY after this email mentioning that a meeting with Ellison/Schmidt re: JavaPhone was about to happen)
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Google trying to cross Catz on another email, Alsup sustains Oracle's objection to it. Google moves on.
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Google now crossing Catz on Ellison's Java One statement that it was "very exciting" to see Android and that he was "flattered"
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IMO both Google and Oracle have succeeded in making each other look awful.
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Not sure what jury thinks but they're still alert and paying attention.
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We're in redirect. Catz is explaining some of their public statements, like the ones made at Java One.
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Basically saying the statements were political/tactful, because they had to reassure people in the wake of the Sun acquisition
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