Holy shit, the legal background on the Lindholm email is actually insanehttps://bol.bna.com/perspective-oracle-vs-google-trial-highlights-importance-of-privilege-reviews/ …
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Catz: The whole Java community has been forked; split into two.
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Catz says "write once; run anywhere" made Java "much more functional" then quickly backpedals and say "sorry, I meant useful."

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Oracle is trying to enter a doc into evidence on business record exception, Alsup refuses on account that there are "too many slides"
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Oracle tries to enter a single page from the doc, Alsup looks it over and refuses, says it's still hearsay and not a business record.
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Catz says Android had "a very negative impact," that companies like Samsung were going from $40 million licensing deals to $1 million.
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Catz gives the example of how Amazon's Kindle Fire used Android and did not license Java.
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When Amazon was developing the Paperwhite, it was deciding between (Oracle's) Java and Android. Oracle gave them a 97.5% discount.
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lol omg
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Catz: ... releasing a phone did not make sense for us. As far as a phone, we were not in that business, and it didn't make sense for it.
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As for a phone platform, "Android was so far ahead in the market ... it would be very difficult to compete."
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Catz testifies that Oracle has been "forced" to make some of their products compatible with Android uhhhhhhhhh
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... any of that involve... ... replicating API labels? By any chance?
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(probably not, I'm sure Google would have found out in discovery, but I'm still raising an eyebrow here)
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Safra Catz was at a bat mitzvah ("which is like a bar mitzvah but for girls") when she ran into Google's general counsel.
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This was March 2012. Catz: He said to me, "Google is a very special company and the old rules don't apply to us."
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Catz: I replied, "'Thou shalt not steal' is an oldie but a goodie."
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Google: As a general matter, don't you think it's fair that the world should be able to rely on the statements made by CEOs?
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Catz: Yeah, it would depend on what I'm talking about.
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[we're now in cross btw]
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Google: There's been a lot of statements by Chief Executive Officers about your software, yes?
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(Basically Google is trying to get Catz to agree that it's fair to rely on Schwartz or Ellison saying Java is free, Androind is good)
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10-K report says: "We have also released Java SE, Java EE and Java ME under an open source license."
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"... generally open source software licenses permit the liberal copying, modification and distribution of software"
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"As a result of such release, there could be an impact on revenue related to this intellectual property"
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"... we may no longer be able to exercise control over some aspects of the future development of this IP."
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Catz acknowledges Oracle knew these things as they acquired Sun.
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Google presses Catz on "killing" the Java phone. Catz acknowledges that Ellison was the one who killed the project.
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Catz: We decided that we should not make a physical phone.
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