Catz: Our relationship with the CEO of Sun was... not as good. Alsup: Not as sunny. lol
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Oracle is presenting "fragmentation" as something Google did that IS WRONG.
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In other words, for Oracle, the needs of interoperability cut AGAINST fair usepic.twitter.com/MKldgnc97w
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This is an extremely extremely extremely strange fair use trial!!!!!!!!
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Brief squabble over a document, Oracle promises Alsup it'll be in non-hearsay shape tomorrow morning.
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Catz testifies that Android's use of Java APIs was "not okay" with Sun.
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Sun owned copyright registrations related to the Java platform, and the copyright registrations are now owned by Oracle America.
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Alsup now reading something to jury about Joshua Bloch. "You remember Dr. Bloch? The energetic witness."
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Part of Bloch's testimony is to be disregarded.
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Regarding: the indirect dependency of packages and classes and the Java language specification. Stipulation forthcoming.
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Jury is out for the day. Catz direct continues tmrw.
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AHA, yes, Oracle DID move under Rule 50. cc:
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Alsup wants it in writing. "We'll get it to you no later than tomorrow night... if the court wants it earlier...." Alsup says that's fine.
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Next witness after Catz, Edward Screven.
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We're done for the day. Thanks guys.
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Re: difficulty of reading my long Twitter threads — I will start compiling Storifys by day.
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That'll make it easier to go back and read, but as far as real-time reporting is concerned, I'm stick with Twitter.
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@effigies That's yet another thing I don't get. More interop→More APIs copied→Lawsuit || Fewer APIs copied→Less interop→Lawsuit.Merci. Twitter en tiendra compte pour améliorer votre fil. SupprimerSupprimer
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If you’ve followed some of the YCombinator threads the same stuff crops up. The argument is bollocks of course….
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….countless developer tools/compilers today implement subsets of APIs, aren’t completely compatible etc. etc.
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Interoperability takes many forms. What Google was aiming for was for Java developers to easily learn and reuse code.
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Laughably, all Google has to do is read Hacker News. If they’re clever this will unravel on Oracle pretty quickly.
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Oracle have a definition of ‘interoperability’ drafted by lawyers with no idea how things actually work.
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