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Sun was approached by Samsung, HTC, Sprint, and others, and still did not bring Sundroid to market
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Google: There's no mention of fragmentation of Java due to Android, is there?
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One more video, Terrence Barr, Dec 9 2015 depo
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Post from his blog commenting on the Android release announcement. "I commend Google for taking this step."
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Said what he was commending was "a platform that would be accessible to a wide range of partners and players in the ecosystem."
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more: "I still applaud Google for effort, the mobile industry is in the midst of a major shift and Android is an embodiment of that shift"
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Barr: Primarily what I meant was mobile platforms were becoming more widespread, more generally available, and more flexible
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Barr: The value chain was shifting from the carriers to other monetization models. That's what I meant by that sentence.
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What's fascinating is that Google keeps using the word "transformation," REPEATEDLY in this depo, to refer to what Android did to the market
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which isn't the same as "transformative fair use"!
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Google: Do you believe that Android transformed the mobile industry as well [like Apple]? Barr says yes.
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repeated move by Google in depo is to ask the witness what they think of Apple/iPhone and then repeat the question about Android.
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Google: Did you believe that Java's mobile strategy was failing [in 2007]? Gering: I'd put it differently [now]... but at the time, yes.
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Google asks if this is because of Android. Gering says no.
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Gering says Android was one example (among many) of what Sun was not doing, not the reason why Sun's Java strategy was failing.
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Owen Astrachan is up as a witness, after "two RFA responses" are being read out.
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Google: Admit that in May 2007 Sun released the code for Java SE under GNU GPL with the Classpath Exception as part of the OpenJDK project.
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Oracle: Admitted.
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Google: Admit that Oracle continues to release the code for Java SE under GPLv2+CE. Oracle: Admitted.
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Owen Astrachan has begun his testimony. Professor of comp science at Duke. Google said earlier he'll testify as to transformative fair use
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Astrachan says he wrote his first program in BASIC in 1973.
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First learned Java in 1995 so he could teach it, read books and online sources.
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Says Java relatively straightforward to learn, bc "conceptually it was similar to C++ and the APIs were similar to C and C++ as well"
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Astrachan is an expert witness retained by Google.
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Google asked him to look at the 37 API package labels in this case and to develop opinions on how they're used on the Android platform.
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He says Google "created a new context" for the 37 API labels, creating a new implementation. (mentions also using C++ API labels?)
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Says that Android use of API labels was "short and functional," and the APIs were a very small part of the JavaSE platform.
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Also notes that Java is the #1 programming language in the world.
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