Google: Does Oracle have a smartphone operating system on market? Rizvi: No. ....
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it's tricky! for laypeople it's really just "something that's either the iphone or competes with the iphone"
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getting a hard technical definition is a trickier proposition
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Transcript of a different Gering depo being read aloud. Email related to "SavaJe," company trying to deliver a phone platform to market
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Acquired by Sun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SavaJe
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Gering testifying as to how Java was "not a full stack" but rather horizontal.
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On the other hand, Android was "full stack."
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After Sun acquired SavaJe, they planned turn their product into full stack, sounds like it did not happen.
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Looking forward to tomorrow's stipulation defining "full stack" and "10x engineer"https://twitter.com/Object_InSpace/status/732250463400120320 …
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Now looking at a PPT about "Project Daneel" within Sun, which shared characteristics with the "Sundroid" project
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A project to insert a Sun Java VM in Android in place of Dalvik Machine.
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From the powerpoint slide: Phase 0 - Java ME Phase 1 - 1 VM Phase 2 - Full linux platform
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Sun got as far as creating a prototype; never went to market.
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Sun was approached by Samsung, HTC, Sprint, and others, and still did not bring Sundroid to market
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Google: There's no mention of fragmentation of Java due to Android, is there?
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One more video, Terrence Barr, Dec 9 2015 depo
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Post from his blog commenting on the Android release announcement. "I commend Google for taking this step."
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Said what he was commending was "a platform that would be accessible to a wide range of partners and players in the ecosystem."
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more: "I still applaud Google for effort, the mobile industry is in the midst of a major shift and Android is an embodiment of that shift"
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Barr: Primarily what I meant was mobile platforms were becoming more widespread, more generally available, and more flexible
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Barr: The value chain was shifting from the carriers to other monetization models. That's what I meant by that sentence.
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What's fascinating is that Google keeps using the word "transformation," REPEATEDLY in this depo, to refer to what Android did to the market
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which isn't the same as "transformative fair use"!
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Google: Do you believe that Android transformed the mobile industry as well [like Apple]? Barr says yes.
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repeated move by Google in depo is to ask the witness what they think of Apple/iPhone and then repeat the question about Android.
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Google: Did you believe that Java's mobile strategy was failing [in 2007]? Gering: I'd put it differently [now]... but at the time, yes.
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Google asks if this is because of Android. Gering says no.
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Gering says Android was one example (among many) of what Sun was not doing, not the reason why Sun's Java strategy was failing.
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Owen Astrachan is up as a witness, after "two RFA responses" are being read out.
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