Redirect over. Oracle has requested a sidebar. (That means lawyers from both sides talk with the judge out of earshot of the jury)
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Google asks if Oracle has continued to make efforts to invest in product for this market. Stahl says no
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Stahl's tl;dr I think is that the window has passed for that.
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Google presents him an email he wrote, where he says: "Java as a mobile platform is not competitive."
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Stahl says at the time (April 2012) the current set of technologies for mobile was not competitive at market
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Google: Oracle did not provide a solution that could be used in the more modern, feature-rich phones?
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Stahl says that "when the hardware moved forward," Java ME (which was for feature phones) was no longer as relevant
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In a PPT Stahl created, he referred to Java ME as "Old technology stack"
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Oracle tried to "take the APIs, modernize them, and make them work, not only for ME but SE" but ultimately did not put out a product
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Now skipping ahead to another depo —— March 31, 2016. Oof, recent.
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Here, Google gets Stahl to say that the iPhone is positive for the market as a whole.
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Stahl: I generally believe that competing products in the market, varying innovation in the market, actually help …
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Google: Do you believe that the existence of Android is a positive for the mobile phone market as a whole? Stahl: ...................yes.
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July 28, 2011 depo of Hasan Rizvi, a Senior VP of Oracle.
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VP of Development when he rejoined Oracle in 2001.
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(he was previously at Oracle for 8 years until 1998)
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Google shows him a presentation created by someone in his team for "Project Javelin"
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PPT said Oracle should "Grow opportunities for Java on mobile phones" and "Turn carriers into customers." Rizvi says that didn't happen.
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Oracle wanted to make an Oracle app store for Java apps. That never happened.
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Some time after the acquisition of Sun, Oracle ceased development in the mobile direction.
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Google: Does Oracle have a smartphone operating system on market? Rizvi: No. ....
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Rizvi: JavaME is not fully capable for what is required by a smartphone device.
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More exhibits being moved into evidence. 15 min break.
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7:45 is a really early time to starthttps://twitter.com/ultramagnus_tcv/status/732242858623700992 …
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After more video depos, this guy will testify as to the transformative nature of Google's use of the APIs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Astrachan …
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Two more short videos and then a live witness.
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Now watching depo of Craig Gering, at Sun/Oracle from 1990-2011. Depo is from July 2011.
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Buddy, don't tell me how to tweet :))))))))) https://twitter.com/Pipette_Ninja/status/732246688300191744 …
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