He seems kind of put off and embarrassed by the question lol
Those cases were 9th circuit, right? O v. G ended up in Federal Circuit for procedural reasons
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that difference will only be resolved at the SCOTUS level right?
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it depends on how you frame the issue. the Solicitor General in 2015 did not see it as a circuit split.
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the way one perceives O v. G changes depending on how one frames 1) the API issue
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2) some of the circuit level decisions regarding interoperability
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There are a lot of legal folks who believe that O v. G is seriously flawed and inconsistent with prior law
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right now it doesn't matter, because SCOTUS (for the time being) believed the other folks.
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hm interestingly, many of these old cases rely on Fair Use (https://www.ccianet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Sega-Enterprises-Ltd.-v.-Accolade-Inc..pdf … is a good amicus brief)
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also interesting: https://www.ccianet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Pulse-Communications-Inc.-v.-DSC-Communications-Corp..pdf … Amicus brief that Sun was part of
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CCIA supports "interpreting copyright to permit the copying necessary to develop interoperable products"
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ok done now. sorry for the flood :)
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From the patent claims that were part of the case for a short time I think?
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yeah -- but it's not like one case -- courts have assumed interop layer was not-copyrightable for years
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http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/JlLawInfoSci/2003/2.html#Heading79 … Sun was a member of ACIS at the time
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https://books.google.com/books?id=LFlGbaS8VjYC&pg=PA312&lpg=PA312&dq=American+Committee+for+Interoperable+Systems&source=bl&ots=Tq4lVpFxuc&sig=uVTAfLboSdQER1L_gybtnm9L6gA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiT7O3yodjMAhVE0GMKHYD-AWc4ChDoAQggMAE#v=onepage&q=American%20Committee%20for%20Interoperable%20Systems&f=false … "other US firms, such as Sun Microsystems ... deny protection to internal interfaces"
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From http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/JlLawInfoSci/2003/2.html#Heading79 … it's clear that nobody thought interfaces were copyrightable, just incidentals
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