Back in court for Oracle v. Google Day 4. Again, here's my #googacle list: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/lists/oracle-v-google …
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Google [transcript]: Do you recall making a statement that you were flattered by Android?
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Ellison: I said I was flattered by a Java based phone being in the marketplace. Google: That was Android? Ellison: ...Yes.
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Google: … And that you were excited about more coming from your friends at Google, yes? Ellison: I don’t remember that part… but okay.
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Google then plays a video from Java One where Ellison says he's flattered by Android and excited about more coming from Google lol
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"I think we can see lots of and lots of Java devices, some of them coming from our friends at Google,
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and I don’t see why some of those devices shouldn’t come from Sun."
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Now showing a video of a deposition from August 12, 2011.
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Ellison on video is being questioned about an email of his. He is very unhappy in this video, weary sighing.
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"best way to increase revenue is to build a mobile phone applications suite on top of JavaFx which will make iPhone a direct competitor"
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Email that Larry Ellison wrote.
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(paraphrase)
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Ellison: We never made an effort to enter the smartphone market.
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Ellison: We analyzed the likelihood of success…. we could not enter the smartphone market.
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Google: Was there ever a document that said a factor for why you couldn’t enter the smartphone market was Android?
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Ellison: I have not seen a document that says that. Gets flustered, said it was his decision, that he made the analysis.
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Google: Has Java revenue increased since you acquired Sun? (It did)
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Google: Do you know why it’s increased? Ellison: *stammers, INCREDIBLY flustered*
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Now we're having a readback of a 2015 depo of John Duimovich, who worked at IBM.
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Duimovich is testifying on behalf of IBM. He's a Java CTO.
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Duimovich is explaining that IBM's implementation of Java uses Apache Harmony (a free, unlicensed implementation of Java).
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The IBM Java SE SDK uses Apache Harmony, and IBM products that use the IBM SE SDK include: Lotus Notes, IBM Commerce.
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Duimovich: "There’s lots and lots of products."
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About ten API packages from Apache Harmony are used in IBM Java 6.
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IBM meets with Sun/Oracle regularly about Java.
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IBM also contributes core classes to Apache Harmony. Sun/Oracle has never brought up Apache Harmony in these meetings.
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Here's a stipulation that's just been read to the jury:pic.twitter.com/dQEKwwL43M
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Rest of the stipulation defines packages, classes, and methods, and declaring code. Was not able to write it down verbatim.
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