I'm charging my laptop in the hallway during the break as an act of desperation & I just got the most "ugh" look from a lawyer walking past
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Ours are half-ass at best. We need another half of an ass.
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Re: why the Sun deal fell apart — because Sun wanted control. Rubin: I think with open source, the notion of control is obsolete.
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Rubin: The whole point of open source is to have very few restrictions on what people can do with it.
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Rubin: I was always transparent and clear with the team not to call it Java.
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Oracle: The 'scrub the js' emails? Rubin: That was more about not having a TM license.
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(Rubin sent emails telling people at Android to "scrub the js" and to not call it Java)
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Schwartz at Sun sent email to Schmidt when the Android announcement came out: "btw we would of course, love to work together"
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Schmidt forwarded it to Rubin. In Rubin's reply, "I’m done with Sun (tail between my legs, you were right)."
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Rubin also says: They won’t be happy when we release our stuff, but we now have a huge alignment with industry, and they are just beginning.
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Alsup: Explain in 30 seconds what GPL is.
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Rubin says it stands for GNU Public License. (Ummmmm, actually)
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"It’s a type of open license that i wasn’t a proponent of... When you contribute something, it takes control of your code."
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Alsup won't buy that GPL stands for GNU Public License, keeps insisting it's General Public License (he's correct). Rubin won't stand down
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Alsup eventually gave up. GNU Public License it is.
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Oracle: "You were worried that if the viral nature of GPL infected those core libraries...
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... and a handset maker made a change, they’d have to publish those libraries to the world."
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Rubin says he was less worried about that, and more about this happening to makers of proprietary apps
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He says he was more worried about user interfaces built on top of Android, and so forth.
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Looking at an email. Oracle: Those handset manufacturers were competing with each other, isn’t that so? Rubin: Yes, I loved that.
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Rubin: I think that type of competition is really good for consumers, they’re winning because phones keep getting better and better.
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15 min break.
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Back to cross-examination of Rubin.
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2005 email from Rubin to Page says that Sun's big concern is that "we will make licensing impossible for sun and [Sun] will lose revenue"
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Namely, by Google making their own JVM.
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Rubin is starting to show signs of fatigue. Big old sigh from him just now as he pores over yet another email.
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Can't blame him, I'm pretty tired myself.
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Another email being moved into evidence. Rubin asked if he recognizes it. He says yes. "It's part of my wall of shame at home."
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He's definitely getting sassier the more tired he is. https://twitter.com/yo_scriptkittie/status/730830649477619713 …
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