G: During your tenure at Sun, was there ever a time the Java APIs were considered proprietary to some? Schwartz: No, never.
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Google: Was GNU also using Java APIs? Schwartz: Yes.
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Google: What was GNU doing with the Java APIs? Schwartz: They were creating a free, open source version of Java.
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Google not being allowed to ask *why* Sun did not interfere with these implementations, because they can't state legal conclusions.
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But it's, like, kind of the point. People at the time did not treat the APIs as copyrightable.
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Schwartz: I was annoyed, but it was completely consistent with our practices. It was competitive with what we were doing.
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Schwartz: We knew that by their creating their own implementation, they would promote it across the world.
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Says this would eventually lead to Sun being able to sell more products.
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I gotta say, I am *loving* sitting in this courtroom listening to someone testifying about what FOSS is.
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Yeah, this is a great way for *me* to spend Wednesday 9 am but I'm the type to get voir dired immediatelyhttps://twitter.com/Ross_Todd/status/730432351365259264 …
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15 min break!
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Every time Alsup has to say that it's now the law that the APIs are copyrightable, he sounds like he wants to strangle someone
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Alsup is not into it, so to balance the scales, he's going to Oracle use an ominious sounding "snippet" that Google hates
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IDK what this snippet is
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This case! This second trial should not have happened.https://twitter.com/justkelly_ok/status/730436557996326916 …
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I'd also like to know thathttps://twitter.com/RussSpitzer/status/730437588268371968 …
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I wonder if it's kind of that we know that only Oracle would pull this shit, and they would only pull it on as attractive a target as Google
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It's a dangerous legal precedent that can only be taken advantage of by enormous dicks with deep pockets
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Google: Did negotiations break down over money? Schwartz: It was a combination of money and technical independence.
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... Google didn't want to rely on anyone else
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So,
@xor says that the ominous "snippet" that's coming up is going to be about how Sun was actually pissed off about Android. -
We're still in direct testimony, so Google is trying to lay down groundwork about the blogpost to discredit this snippet.
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Looking ahead, I think Schmidt did pretty well on the stand; I kind of doubt that Ellison will do as well.
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I am unreasonably excited to see Ellison testify
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We're now watching a clip from Java One.
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(The trade(?) conference at Moscone)
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Although they're getting a break from testimony about Java, jury does not look pleased about having to watch nerds awkwardly demo Android
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I gather that at Java One, they were announcing their own phone? And it didn't go anywhere.
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Schwartz: At the time, the iPhone was taking off like wildfire, and no one cared about Android.
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