Alsup: "I don't know what the witness just said. The thing about the breakfast menu makes no sense."
-
-
Schwartz: We couldn’t stop it. It was fair. They weren’t asking us to put our logo on it, or bless it. [Sun made money licensing Java TM]
-
Schwartz says that that's what happened with Apache Harmony. Apache Harmony used APIs, wanted to use the logo to indicate Java-compatible
-
Sun refused because Harmony wouldn't pay them the fees, but did not object to use of APIs.
-
Schwartz keeps coming close to saying APIs aren't copyrightable and additional jury instruction had to be givenhttps://twitter.com/xor/status/730428645513269248 …
-
Alsup: Give us 30 second on GNU. Schwartz: There... was a very smart man...
-
Alsup interrupts as Schwartz tries to explain who RMS is.
-
Schwartz explains GNU stands for. "GNU is not Unix." Alsup: The G part stands for GNU? Schwartz: Yes. Alsup: That doesn't many any sense
-
Now Schwartz is explaining free software and keeps getting carried away, Alsup keeps stopping him telling him not to make a speech
-
Google: Was GNU also using Java APIs? Schwartz: Yes.
-
Google: What was GNU doing with the Java APIs? Schwartz: They were creating a free, open source version of Java.
-
Google not being allowed to ask *why* Sun did not interfere with these implementations, because they can't state legal conclusions.
-
But it's, like, kind of the point. People at the time did not treat the APIs as copyrightable.
-
Schwartz: I was annoyed, but it was completely consistent with our practices. It was competitive with what we were doing.
-
Schwartz: We knew that by their creating their own implementation, they would promote it across the world.
-
Says this would eventually lead to Sun being able to sell more products.
-
I gotta say, I am *loving* sitting in this courtroom listening to someone testifying about what FOSS is.
-
Yeah, this is a great way for *me* to spend Wednesday 9 am but I'm the type to get voir dired immediatelyhttps://twitter.com/Ross_Todd/status/730432351365259264 …
-
15 min break!
-
Every time Alsup has to say that it's now the law that the APIs are copyrightable, he sounds like he wants to strangle someone
-
Alsup is not into it, so to balance the scales, he's going to Oracle use an ominious sounding "snippet" that Google hates
-
IDK what this snippet is
-
This case! This second trial should not have happened.https://twitter.com/justkelly_ok/status/730436557996326916 …
-
I'd also like to know thathttps://twitter.com/RussSpitzer/status/730437588268371968 …
-
I wonder if it's kind of that we know that only Oracle would pull this shit, and they would only pull it on as attractive a target as Google
-
It's a dangerous legal precedent that can only be taken advantage of by enormous dicks with deep pockets
-
Google: Did negotiations break down over money? Schwartz: It was a combination of money and technical independence.
-
... Google didn't want to rely on anyone else
-
So,
@xor says that the ominous "snippet" that's coming up is going to be about how Sun was actually pissed off about Android. - 81 réponses de plus
Nouvelle conversation -
Le chargement semble prendre du temps.
Twitter est peut-être en surcapacité ou rencontre momentanément un incident. Réessayez ou rendez-vous sur la page Twitter Status pour plus d'informations.