Oracle's position is that it was "just PR," a party line that was meant to mask that Sun was pissed behind the scenes
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Schmidt explains the restrictions are on the services, not on the APIs themselves. Issue is that overuse will overwhelm the service.
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Google: If you took the Java implementation from Sun, you'd have to get a license from that, yes? Schmidt: Absolutely.
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Schmidt was willing to pay $30-40 million for that.
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(Spoiler: those negotiations fall apart).
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Recross — back to Oracle. Part of the reason why the negotiations fell apart was because Sun wanted more control over the Java ecosystem
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Schmidt is is released. He's ambling on out of the courtrooom now.
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Alsup is asking one of the jurors about her beestings and whether she's doing okay enough to follow the testimony. She's stammering.
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Alsup revises his question. "Are you able to follow the testimony as well as you could before the beesting?" Juror: *no hesitation* Yes.
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Google calls Jonathan Schwartz to the stand.
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Schwartz was the CEO of Sun that wrote the blogpost that we keep talking about.
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Google: What do you do currently? Schwartz: I run a software company and I'm a dad.
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For ppl who don't know what Schwartz looks like, this is what jury is seeing—guy with long hair & glasses, in a suitpic.twitter.com/DwkearMYd4
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Google: Did you work with Eric Schmidt? Schwartz: Yes, he was my first boss.
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Google: When you were CEO of Sun, was the Java programming language free and available to use? Schwartz: Yes. Since its inception.
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Promoted Java across the country, because the more people used Java, the more business opportunities Sun had.
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Schwartz is asked if he was familiar with Java APIs at the time he was CEO. Schwartz begins by trying to explain what APIs. Oracle objects
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Schwartz isn't an expert, so he has to frame his answer as "The way I'd explain APIs *then*..."
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Alsup: "I don't know what the witness just said. The thing about the breakfast menu makes no sense."
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The problem with this case is that pretty much everyone this case actually affects knows what an API is, but it's all up to people who don't
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Also, yeah, the Schwartz breakfast menu analogy made *no* sense.
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Google: Were the Java APIs sold or licensed separately from the language? Schwartz: No.
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Google: Can you explain what an implementation is? Schwartz: Can I go back to my breakfast menu analogy?
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Google: *wearily* Well that didn't work with the judge but go ahead
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Schwartz explains that two restaurants can both say they serve hamburgers but the actual hamburgers themselves are different
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The actual hamburgers are the implementations.
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Can't tell what the jury is thinking.
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G: During your tenure at Sun, was there ever a time the Java APIs were considered proprietary to some? Schwartz: No, never.
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Google: What was the practice at Sun during your tenure with respect to third parties who used the APIs with their own implementations?
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Schwartz: We couldn’t stop it. It was fair. They weren’t asking us to put our logo on it, or bless it. [Sun made money licensing Java TM]
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Schwartz says that that's what happened with Apache Harmony. Apache Harmony used APIs, wanted to use the logo to indicate Java-compatible
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