What I find fascinating about this hearing is that they literally can't find the words for what national security letters and gag orders do
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"overturned" -- now here I'm playing with the words that don't mean the words they are again
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ok i have a clarification that doesn't really matter nvm yes the government thinks no matter what the judge rules, everybody still gagged
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government now arguing that FISC is the appropriate forum for this.
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how would i describe the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Courts? hmmm "a soundless black hole of due process"
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oh man this is a weirder case than I thought it was
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another funny thing from earlier in the hearing is that the government mentioned that "there has been greater interest in surveillance..."
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"....there have been recent events..." and then he wouldn't say Snowden's name lol
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Judge is back to calling it a protocol
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Government really doesn't want to talk about the DAG letter, they want to talk about FISA because the letter is too weird
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like now that I'm thinking about it, the letter exists in an odd limbo of not-law
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not just in the sense of "fuck FISC and all it stands for," i really can't decide how it works inside of administrative law
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journalists: please do not aggregate my tweets, i am not a nat sec law expert
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so basically gov't is arguing that Twitter can be menaced by a not-law letter telling them what they can and can't say and it doesn't matter
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LMAO the government is arguing that the FISC is the right forum but they are also arguing...
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... they can't even acknowledge there is a FISC-reated order involved because that information is in itself classified
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welp separation of powers talk, i'm zoning out for this one, sorry guyspic.twitter.com/a4MOpBONKs
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now talking about pending 9th circuit stuff that would affect this case
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now plaintiff is asking about the 0 issue.
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(warrant canaries)
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government says what they said about the 0 issue (warrant canaries) is not a concession, slightly flustered
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but repeats what he said. Saying you've received 0 is not a problem. Warrant canaries good to go?
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What's awesome* about this case is how the government keeps not being able to say stuff or describe stuff bc classification
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and they don't even seem ashamed
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