@thinkcomp i think what gets me about both is that there are dedicated cores of ppl who understand there ought to be reform, but
@thinkcomp it's only come up w pre-1972 but theoretically applies to more :( messy, strange, & not fully explored in courts, as w payments
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@thinkcomp not much of a broad base appeal to that movement + lots of money & power on the other side
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