sarah jeong

like literally saying “yes we did think about it and in conclusion we think we published something newsworthy” is all it takes

no citing to fair use, no citing to EULAs, ffs

@sarahjeong does the fact that people gave permission to use their tweets change anything here?

@SaraMorrison some did, some didn't

@SaraMorrison & it looks like some did premised on someone else’s consent then withdrew when they realized the latter consent was not given

@SaraMorrison so it’s just a mess. not saying there’s a hard and fast rule here, just that you have to make your own judgments +

@SaraMorrison stand by them, especially if your subject is angry at you for not contacting them before writing about them.

@sarahjeong ok. I thought she had permission from all sa survivors (but not @steenfox) to use their tweets.

@SaraMorrison I can totally see how the writer thought it was fine. It’s the arguments about legality that are making me mad.

@SaraMorrison there aren’t easy answers to which extent social media platforms are public or private, and I don’t think journalism should +

@sarahjeong if we can't put rape survivor quotes with names/faces on huge platforms w/out asking, investigative journalism is ruined!!!

@redrawnoxen @mathewi @sarahjeong Huge platforms like Twitter? I was under the impression the survivors the comments there themselves.

@espiers @mathewi @sarahjeong not really here for framing this convo around legalese of public/private twitter 'stead of ethics / respect

@redrawnoxen @mathewi @sarahjeong Nothing disrespectful abt reporting on something tht occurs in a public forum &certainly nothing unethical

.@espiers @mathewi @redrawnoxen @sarahjeong Most Twitter-based "reporting" is cheap gotcha crap and symptomatic of journalistic decline.

@katewerk @mathewi @redrawnoxen @sarahjeong I see no gotcha in that story, however you feel about it.

@espiers @katewerk @mathewi @sarahjeong so you'd be cool with posting, say, something a minor wrote on twitter w/out a second thought?

@redrawnoxen @katewerk @mathewi @sarahjeong the ethics re: reporting on minors are different, legally & otherwse-even when they're in public