We fear socialism more than we fear, you know, a runaway military industrial complex with illegal surveillance powers
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@sarahjeong when most Americans express fear of socialism it means larger more powerful more resourced government (not that has to but has) -
The rise of the military-industrial complex corresponds with the Cold War —> More powerful govt to ward off red threat.
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@sarahjeong@corderoenvivo way we've failed to scale down the .mil and failed to audit finances, we risk more theft than the post-USSR had..
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@sarahjeong thus fear of(state) socialism is the same as that against totalist NSA style state. This isnt a ridiculous historical conclusion -
@corderoenvivo@sarahjeong food stamps and free healthcare, same thing as mass surveillance and data collection right? totally reasonable -
@nimbusgo@sarahjeong its almost like theyre being done by the same entity! And that power corrupts! And that taxes originated in war making -
@corderoenvivo@sarahjeong same entity dif uses, hammers can be used to build houses or break windows. Property rights originated in slavery -
@nimbusgo@sarahjeong &the history of the entity "United States Government" leads you to believe it is what kind of tool? 1 we need more of? -
@corderoenvivo@sarahjeong It's not one tool, it's many. I want more and better tools that help people, fewer that help power. -
@nimbusgo Marxists call this "instrumentalist fallacy". State isn't & can't be neutral tool. Founded& based on violence & exploitation. -
@corderoenvivo I'm not a statist. One works with what one has tho. Why decry helping people with the same or more fervor than killing/spying - 1 réponse de plus
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