and for the holier-than-thou left: berating newly enlightened and now-activated people for not knowing things already doesn't make you a better person than them, it makes you an obnoxious blowhard
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*galaxy brain* new energy from previously complacent people who want to do something and are looking for someone to tell them what to do is a welcome thing, unless you're an armchair twitter activist who's never organized shit in their life
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There's a difference between explaining and scolding and there's a whole lot of unhelpful scolding right now!https://twitter.com/hollingsworthit/status/1009105389781073920 …
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In January 2017 a lot of people who had never encountered the brutality of the modern US immigration system got a crash course and I welcome that
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It's important to bring up because if we only roll back Trump's policies, we go back to *still* jailing families in untenable conditions. Journalists knew awful conditions were present in these facilities in the Obama era, and nobody listened.
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basically -- The next step in the nat'l debate is, okay Democrats, you have the House of Representatives now. Are you going to return to Obama-era policies? Or are you going to address the longer-standing cruelty toward asylum-seekers? That's why I think it's valuable.
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Agreed. Also, people’s views on immigration enforcement are hugely malleable right now. It’s important they know the horrors ICE inflicts on immigrant families even when it’s not front-page news—with the endorsement of Dem pols, no less.
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Also, many of these horrors are visited upon US citizens every day, courtesy of our criminal justice system. Now that's it's out in the light, let's not stop with just fixing this one new and horrible example
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As an Latin American immigrant, I will criticize Obama's immigration policy as much as I want. He bragged about deporting 2 million of us, then ignored us until the last minute. Obama-era enforcement had a real impact on people's lives, too.
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As though there weren't a difference between "not good enough" and "deliberately as bad as possible." Ugh.
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obama deporting 3 million people didn’t make a real difference in real peoples lives? yikes
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Also just because you weren't sufficiently opposed to something bad before doesn't mean you can't become opposed to it now. It's like arguing that if you used to smoke you can never quit.
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Sure. On the other hand, all that "*Now* the US is bad, previously it was a-okay" is still nationalism.
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The point is the United States needs to undergo massive change. This is not one mans fault, its on all of you
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See I"m the opposite - the fact that people only want to oppose it now is completely disheartening to me because it proves they won't care the next time their preferred president is in office and we'll be back where we started
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Or it’s brought a lot of information and insight and they are much more aware and will continue to be regardless of who is pres. People start paying attention at different times. Just because someone may not have been aware/paid attention before does not mean they shouldn’t now.
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It also ignores the people who supported Obama but not his immigration laws, or the ones who stopped supporting him after finding out about the immigration laws. Not everyone's opinion is stuck in cement like many die-hard Trump supporters.
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“the new enforcement makes a real difference in real people’s real lives”
https://twitter.com/immcivilrights/status/1008902662828511232?s=21 …
https://shadowproof.com/2018/06/15/separation-immigrant-families-part-deportation-obama-now-trump-expanding-practice/ …pic.twitter.com/cGOTyCrbJb
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If you follow the links you will see that the family separations discussed (which many of us have been protesting for years) are NOT children separated at the border and handed over to strangers- often in distant states. They are children who have had a parent deported.
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Obviously still cruel and highly traumatic. As I say, many of us have protested our insane immigration policy for a long time. But NOT the same as tearing babies from their mother's arm and giving them to a 'tender years shelter'.
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Ironic that Obama was willing to go so far to accommodate Republicans- only to have them first bash him for being 'soft' - and then claim he did the same thing. Trying to compromise with an 'opposition' that hated him for his skin color was obviously a fool's errand.
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Which is another thing many of us have been saying for years.
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