I see mimetic rivalry as being non-rigorous memetic theory presented thru good story telling. Joseph Campbell, but focused on culture.
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I'm confident the ideas influencing him were same as those behind autopoiesis, but I ran into an expensive book:https://twitter.com/ultimape/status/838614435430301697 …
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victimization process he described is a dysphemistic way of framing autopoiesis. really just network effects+memes. http://www.zfog.bwl.uni-muenchen.de/files/mitarbeiter/paper2004_2.pdf …
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Combine with this analogy of bubbles https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=from%3Aultimape%20bubble%20OR%20bubbles&src=typd … markets as condensate, szabo's work: one basically rederived 'meme markets'.
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yeah girard seems sloppy with locating agency (whether in individuals or systems) compared to szabo
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thanks for good question. I've been trying to squeeze this out since https://twitter.com/ultimape/status/840238073388650497 … Still missing something tho. 'Politics' maybe?
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Reading thru your new piece, I think you nailed it on agency. He seems to ignore large swaths of agency formulations.
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Funny you mention envy/jealousy. If I were to pin his work down: he's exploring allistic herd-oriented minds only.https://twitter.com/ultimape/status/797724137393389568 …
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Tangent is
@naval's take on VC ecosystem, & how herd action is often artifact of other forces, not (just) mimesis: https://startupboy.com/2010/04/22/why-private-investors-are-herd-animals/ …1 reply 4 retweets 26 likes
extremely important - mimesis and contagion accounts mostly miss concepts like convergent evolution, homophily, info costs
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I like that framing, fits notion of emotional contagion stemming from evolved heuristic for social orientation:https://twitter.com/ultimape/status/797651371386372096 …
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That we would have so much autonomous processing happening suggest its to speed up social inferences?https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-brain-boasts-its-own-social-network/ …
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