@AlexSchleber destroy the self and you're golden
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Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing the Conscious Mind != the seat of the emotions or larger calculus driving these things. In any event it can't get agency..2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@sarahdoingthing ..w/out cooperation from Unconscious. Takes a lot to override Survival Instinct, = why there's "call for help" attempts2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@AlexSchleber yes! Survival instincts = nature manipulating us1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing but how is that an insight? Of course "nature" (=Evolution) is "manipulating" everything: Organism w/out survival instinct2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@sarahdoingthing ..is selected against. It's all about the relative strengths of the "manipulations", feedback loops, etc.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@sarahdoingthing in the end, have to find a Evo-Psych useful narrative, & postulating "social pain" & depression as separate seems less so1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@sarahdoingthing from all I've seen in clinical settings/etc. experience, "social pain" = gut punch/numb feeling = depression onset.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@AlexSchleber yes in this model that's healthy - extreme pain --> paralysis means no energy to harm oneself1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing but that presupposes that there is an "always on" drive to harm 1self at a moment's notice, & that's just not the case IMO2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
@AlexSchleber if it's likely to be triggered by extreme pain, makes sense to get out ahead of it not wait
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