@sarahdoingthing ..would stand to reason that pain from "banishment" (not belonging) is set to "high" evolutionarily (=do anything to avoid)
@AlexSchleber yes in this model that's healthy - extreme pain --> paralysis means no energy to harm oneself
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@sarahdoingthing but that presupposes that there is an "always on" drive to harm 1self at a moment's notice, & that's just not the case IMO -
@AlexSchleber if it's likely to be triggered by extreme pain, makes sense to get out ahead of it not wait
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