@sarahdoingthing so you're saying the thing that lead to suicidal ideation (deep depression) is the same thing that is the solution?!
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Replying to @AlexSchleber
@AlexSchleber the weird idea I started with is that depression doesn't cause suicidality, pain does (especially social pain)1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing hmmm... as separate phenomena. Not sure this holds up, or that you can separate. By your own "Belonging Primacy" theory..1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@sarahdoingthing ..would stand to reason that pain from "banishment" (not belonging) is set to "high" evolutionarily (=do anything to avoid)2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@AlexSchleber intermediating all of this is the conscious self - the source of all this pain (thinking of Rochat, Baumeister)1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@AlexSchleber destroy the self and you're golden1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing the Conscious Mind != the seat of the emotions or larger calculus driving these things. In any event it can't get agency..2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@sarahdoingthing ..w/out cooperation from Unconscious. Takes a lot to override Survival Instinct, = why there's "call for help" attempts2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @AlexSchleber
@AlexSchleber yes! Survival instincts = nature manipulating us1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing but how is that an insight? Of course "nature" (=Evolution) is "manipulating" everything: Organism w/out survival instinct2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@AlexSchleber idk maybe it's boring
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