@ShardPhoenix @sarahdoingthing ..in the Evo-Psych system of "prevent banishment outcome with max psych deterrent" (which IS itself adaptive)
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@ShardPhoenix@sarahdoingthing ..OR system break-down at crit. low levels where residual aggressive instincts/programs turn against self.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@AlexSchleber my view of suicide is that it's quite rational, and nature has to manipulate us to get us not to do it3 replies 1 retweet 1 like -
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@sarahdoingthing so you're saying the thing that lead to suicidal ideation (deep depression) is the same thing that is the solution?!1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@AlexSchleber the weird idea I started with is that depression doesn't cause suicidality, pain does (especially social pain)1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing hmmm... as separate phenomena. Not sure this holds up, or that you can separate. By your own "Belonging Primacy" theory..1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@sarahdoingthing ..would stand to reason that pain from "banishment" (not belonging) is set to "high" evolutionarily (=do anything to avoid)2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
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@AlexSchleber intermediating all of this is the conscious self - the source of all this pain (thinking of Rochat, Baumeister)1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@AlexSchleber destroy the self and you're golden1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@sarahdoingthing the Conscious Mind != the seat of the emotions or larger calculus driving these things. In any event it can't get agency..2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
@AlexSchleber it can't get agency, but it can become hypertrophied in absence of ritual/communal identity & metastasize
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