Perhaps the lesson of the goddess Eris is that it's easier and funnier to create suffering on a massive scale than to relieve it.
@GabrielDuquette I think na is primordial to that one - the thing that makes all time "work" --> demand for tech input to get rid of it
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@GabrielDuquette I don't think there is any one symptom/litmus test for everyone - unbearable suffering looks different in different people
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