@sarahdoingthing But yeah, "x is bad" = "I am going to ban x with guns" is a foundational argument for me, meaning to blog it. Because...
@vgr I guess you've read the many criticisms of pinker's thesis so you will understand why I am skeptical
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@sarahdoingthing The one truly undeniable vector of massive increase in violence/cruelty by historical standards is probably factory farming -
@vgr paralleling the prisons in out-of-sight-ness - 4 more replies
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@sarahdoingthing@vgr I found Foseti's the most persuasive critique. https://foseti.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/review-of-the-better-angels-of-our-nature-by-steven-pinker/ …Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sarahdoingthing Yes, I see more bad faith in the criticisms than in the originalThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sarahdoingthing In many ways the noise-signal problem is more fundamental than whether the secular signal is "progress" or "decline" -
@sarahdoingthing If we had a clean secular signal, two sides could just agree to disagree about which way is up and move on - 1 more reply
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