@cathodion if it were so great a thing to have, why such a high value on losing it? ;) (& of course pre-1700 it's the root of evil)
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Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@cathodion the individual self as the core of morality and goodness is a very modern madness - collective selves are not so awful to bear1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing well, since I am an individual self, I supposed I'm biased toward selfhood. Though it's nice to get lost once in a while.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @cathodion
@cathodion indeed - it's a very eloquent advocate for itself, despite its many harms1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing good point. I'll just stand by for assimilation.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @cathodion
@cathodion@sarahdoingthing Sarah, how self-less do you think pre-modern people were?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @KevinSimler
@KevinSimler it's complicated - I certainly don't think they were "selfless" in the sense of saints, but group identities and morality...2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@KevinSimler carried more meaning. that whitney houston song about "the greatest love of all" being loving yourself would be wtf to them.1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@KevinSimler it's not just present modernity - Catullus seems full of self, but there's not much self in Tu Fu or Basho.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing@KevinSimler how do you know that that's because they actually have less self and aren't just deemphasizing it in writing?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@cathodion the cultural debris left over is all we have - and de-emphasizing in writing is important information either way
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