Loss of self may not be the final goal, but it is a great gift. (And encouragement of self is cruelty to children.)pic.twitter.com/TYKQO7nDhm
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Loss of self may not be the final goal, but it is a great gift. (And encouragement of self is cruelty to children.)pic.twitter.com/TYKQO7nDhm
@sarahdoingthing why is it cruel? Don't they need a self?
@cathodion if it were so great a thing to have, why such a high value on losing it? ;) (& of course pre-1700 it's the root of evil)
@cathodion the individual self as the core of morality and goodness is a very modern madness - collective selves are not so awful to bear
@sarahdoingthing well, since I am an individual self, I supposed I'm biased toward selfhood. Though it's nice to get lost once in a while.
@cathodion indeed - it's a very eloquent advocate for itself, despite its many harms
@sarahdoingthing good point. I'll just stand by for assimilation.
@cathodion @sarahdoingthing Sarah, how self-less do you think pre-modern people were?
@KevinSimler it's complicated - I certainly don't think they were "selfless" in the sense of saints, but group identities and morality...
@KevinSimler carried more meaning. that whitney houston song about "the greatest love of all" being loving yourself would be wtf to them.
@KevinSimler it's not just present modernity - Catullus seems full of self, but there's not much self in Tu Fu or Basho.
@sarahdoingthing @KevinSimler how do you know that that's because they actually have less self and aren't just deemphasizing it in writing?
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