@sarahdoingthing @GabrielDuquette You're conflating power and violence with beauty proper.
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Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing@GabrielDuquette That we don't have enough input into defining "beauty" where we are the main affected parties is abt power1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @vgr
@sarahdoingthing@GabrielDuquette You can sub beauty with any variable that people should control in proportion to their stake in it.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @vgr
@sarahdoingthing@GabrielDuquette One reason I am wary of your communitarianism is precisely that. Eg. HOAs dictating lawn aesthetics.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@vgr@GabrielDuquette A Pattern Language-style aesthetics is the opposite of that, each thing fitted to its place and use, not cookie cutter2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@vgr@GabrielDuquette all suburban subdivisions mostly look the same - no local expression at all, no place for beauty1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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@sarahdoingthing@GabrielDuquette Which is fine if residents collectively chose it without coercion and can sell and leave if they want1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @vgr
@vgr@GabrielDuquette I don't think that people live in ugly places because they like it that way, but because beautiful options don't exist1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing@GabrielDuquette Or because they allocate whatever economic means they have as best they can. Beauty comes at a cost.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@vgr @GabrielDuquette indeed - it's the first thing that gets efficiencied out of existence, and we all suffer - ugliness externalities
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