@MikeAnissimov groups are formed by doing rhythmic rituals together, not by ideas (even if the ideas are collectivist)
@MikeAnissimov well maybe it's that the self is elevated to a level of sacredness - give them a taste and they'd love to get rid of it
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@MikeAnissimov suspect this has to do with why they're overrepresented in terms of drugs and kinky sex (cheap loss of self) -
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