@simplic10 @St_Rev I was wondering if you meant to go after Coldplay. There are different kinds of norm enforcement with unequal badness.
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Replying to @GrumplessGrinch
@GrumplessGrinch@St_Rev Hard to say a given kind of norm enforcement is bad while remaining agnostic on whether the norm is bad, I think.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @simplic10
@simplic10@St_Rev I mean, like, some methods of enforcement involve more coercion than others. It's just consequentialism.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @GrumplessGrinch
@GrumplessGrinch@St_Rev Going back to OP - forget "enforcement" for the time being and focus on "expression". Can value expression oppress?2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @simplic10
@simplic10 That would depend on how much coercion is present, but in some cases that can definitely be an effect, yeah.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @GrumplessGrinch
@GrumplessGrinch@simplic10 that's coercion, not expression1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @cwage
@cwage@simplic10 Expression can have subtle coercive effects in some contexts.2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @GrumplessGrinch
@GrumplessGrinch@cwage Expression of values *always* does, at least to some degree, I think.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @simplic10
@GrumplessGrinch@cwage When you say "X is wrong" you express a willingness to act (from shunning to homicide) against smb who does X.3 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @simplic10
@GrumplessGrinch@cwage This is why having arguments about ethics is hard - normative statements are performative.4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
@simplic10 @GrumplessGrinch @cwage writing about this now for the crab, just saw this conversation, cool!
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Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing@GrumplessGrinch@cwage excellent, curious what you think0 replies 0 retweets 1 likeThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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