@St_Rev @sarahdoingthing imo a critical thing is whether your willingness to stand by your part in it is contingent on how victim reacts >
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Replying to @schakalsynthetc
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing < that's on the assumption that troll *does* care & the rule thus implies giving up some methods as indefensible >1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @schakalsynthetc
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing < for a sociopath it's trivial - if they don't give a fuck then nothing is actually ruled out by it >4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @schakalsynthetc
@schakalsynthetc@sarahdoingthing Bad guys wristlock you, throw you into tree, then break your wrist for good measure.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @St_Rev
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing one complication is that victims' standard of how much pain is worth a result varies and isn't known in advance1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @schakalsynthetc
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing one may not mind being thrown into a tree if there's an ultimate payoff & another would feel it wasn't worth it1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @schakalsynthetc
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing which is kind of what I was aiming at with the point about justification being contingent on victim's >1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing < after-the-fact feelings about it (which is tricky bc we can't expect people to be mindreaders)3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @schakalsynthetc
@schakalsynthetc@sarahdoingthing My thesis is that pure trolling refrains from predicting or directing the victim's reaction.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @St_Rev
@St_Rev@sarahdoingthing I kind of think some prediction has to factor in to the initial decision whether it's ethically ok to proceed2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
@schakalsynthetc @St_Rev "be the troll you want to see in the world" complicated by the world being made up of lots of alien minds
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Replying to @sarahdoingthing
@sarahdoingthing@St_Rev yup. nevermind what it's like to be a bat, us humans still aren't exactly sure what it's like to be another human2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @schakalsynthetc
@schakalsynthetc@sarahdoingthing Oh, most humans are quite sure what it's like, they're just completely wrong.0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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