Velleman: we respect agents because of their Kantian dignity/rationality, and we can't trade off our sacred value to e.g. stop our suffering
@St_Rev eh I'm desperate for anti-suicide arguments and this is the only non-religious one going, pretty much
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@sarahdoingthing@St_Rev what about the one about how sad your friends and dependants will be if you kill yourself. -
@drethelin@sarahdoingthing@St_Rev That's a really good one. And it's not just "sad", it's "utterly changed for life - for the worse". - 10 more replies
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@sarahdoingthing But this is me trying to school von Neumann on math here -
@St_Rev wait what math?? - 2 more replies
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@St_Rev (though it's a bit religious really)Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sarahdoingthing Like, realistically, a dude with no friends and family snuffs himself, nobody but the cleanup crew actually gives a shit. -
@St_Rev Hecht's argument is that every one of us is special and each death makes it easier for other people to die (bad iff suicide is bad) - 1 more reply
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@sarahdoingthing *If* one's existence is of value to others, *and* you reject negative utilitarianism, it's *possible* suicide is a net lossThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sarahdoingthing On a completely unqualified first pass, the only one that seems like it has legs to me is locally weighted Rawlsianism.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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