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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker May 23

    Diversity, leadership, and unconscious bias training are useless in reducing the gender pay gap. But reducing subjectivity in hiring, pay, & promotions can help. Evidence from UK Behavioral Insights unit. @apoliticalcohttps://apolitical.co/solution_article/your-companys-plan-to-close-the-gender-pay-gap-probably-wont-work/ …

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      2. SpeakersCornerUS‏ @SpeakerCornerUS May 26
        Replying to @sapinker @apoliticalco

        There’s actually no such thing as a gender pay gap when you use multivariate analysis - Every respectable economist on earth for decades

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      1. Space-Battleship 🚀 ⚓️ 🐸 🐲 🦀 🐻‏ @GlobalPentahedr May 27
        Replying to @sapinker @apoliticalco

        I had a female manager who only promoted women and effeminate men, it was obvious as many choices were blatantly terrible to the point men with good work ethics were not staying with that employer. Bias is not unique to men, giving women a shortcut to leadership is not a fix.

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      1. Nicholas Ewing‏ @InVinoVeritas50 May 23
        Replying to @sapinker @apoliticalco

        Really interesting about removing certain demographic characteristics from job applications in order to remove bias, very cool.

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      2. Dan Hipp‏ @Prof_Hipp May 23
        Replying to @sapinker @apoliticalco

        Don't you mean earnings Gap? And there is only a main effect of gender on earnings, which is qualified by high level interactions with other variables such as average hours of work per week.

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      1. ZeroFox Given‏ @ZeroFox_Given May 27
        Replying to @sapinker @CathyYoung63 @apoliticalco

        https://youtu.be/GVCqPpj-_84 

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      1. Paradigm Shift‏ @reasonvalues May 23
        Replying to @sapinker @apoliticalco

        Myth of the gender pay gap continues.

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      2. walter white‏ @walterw62165491 May 23
        Replying to @sapinker @apoliticalco

        Jordan Peterson nailed it

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      3. Yenrap Rellin‏ @sisboombahbah May 24
        Replying to @walterw62165491 @sapinker @apoliticalco

        Meh. If women are getting less for the same job it’s fucked up. If they don’t want the job or aren’t naturally as good at it then suppressing bias should reveal that.

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      4. Nick Wheeler‏ @Aielmandude May 27
        Replying to @sisboombahbah @walterw62165491 and

        It does. Hence why job segregation by gender is amplified in more gender equitable societies.

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      5. Yenrap Rellin‏ @sisboombahbah May 27
        Replying to @Aielmandude @walterw62165491 and

        Link?

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      6. Duh Shan‏ @Dushancho May 27
        Replying to @sisboombahbah @Aielmandude and

        Here you go:https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/02/the-more-gender-equality-the-fewer-women-in-stem/553592/ …

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      2. Gyeff‏ @Gyeff May 23
        Replying to @sapinker @apoliticalco

        The failure of the education system is intentional. The elites have their own special schools. The public schools are there only to indoctrinate the next generation of slaves. Slaves who are made to chase invisible spooks, so that attention may be kept away from their masters.

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      3. mismos00‏ @mismos00 May 23
        Replying to @Gyeff @sapinker @apoliticalco

        There’s probably a way to express a similar opinion without using loaded words that make you sound like a crackpot. Look into ‘persuasion’ tactics if you care about people taking you and your views seriously

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. Gyeff‏ @Gyeff May 23
        Replying to @mismos00 @sapinker @apoliticalco

        I understand that slavery is a loaded word to some. I'm agnostic about it. I personally don't have an emotional reaction to slavery as some do. It's difficult to express my emotional neutrality about the issue through text. I only understand this now in retrospect.

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      5. Gyeff‏ @Gyeff May 23
        Replying to @Gyeff @mismos00 and

        Also, my intention was not to persuade. I am merely expressing my impression as I see it. If you find my impression to be incorrect, you may pose a counter and I will consider. You may make me change my hypothesis. I'm not married to it. I'm not even certain that the...

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      6. Gyeff‏ @Gyeff May 23
        Replying to @Gyeff @mismos00 and

        indoctrination and slavery is a bad thing. In the current state of social development restrictions to upward mobility might be necessary. This may change in the future, as more and more naturally undesirable labor is replaced by automation. The system is obscured from the public.

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      2. Manish Bhan‏ @iCruits May 23
        Replying to @sapinker @apoliticalco

        Steve, as long as there is a selection process there will be bias. Bias of gender bias is a bias too. It is just matter of time you will be hearing that.

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