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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Apr 17

    The Blank Slate is cracking: With polygenic scores corroborating twin & adoption studies in showing IQ is in good part heritable, even schools & left-leaning mags are walkiing back the tabula rasa.https://www.newstatesman.com/2018/04/iq-trap-how-new-genetics-could-transform-education …

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      2. k go‏ @DarrkEnergy Apr 17
        Replying to @sapinker

        Don't show the owner of vox this

        2 replies 1 retweet 67 likes
      3. David‏ @creaytive Apr 18
        Replying to @DarrkEnergy @sapinker

        @ezraklein probably a good idea to write a piece attempting to end this author's career and I spose those of the teachers and parents that took the survey too

        2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
      4. jzkarap‏ @jzkarap Apr 18
        Replying to @creaytive @DarrkEnergy and

        That’s exaggeration. Klein has not suggested that IQ is not heritable. He said that’s not the issue to focus on. It’s easy to do an (1/6)

        3 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
      5. jzkarap‏ @jzkarap Apr 18
        Replying to @jzkarap @creaytive and

        uncharitable read when he doesn’t align with the tribe. That was his point. It was also Harris’s point. Harris argues IQ is (2/6)

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. jzkarap‏ @jzkarap Apr 18
        Replying to @jzkarap @creaytive and

        heritable. Klein argues IQ is heritable and that history plays into that heritability: eg lack of resources, poverty, a history of (3/6)

        4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. jzkarap‏ @jzkarap Apr 18
        Replying to @jzkarap @creaytive and

        enslavement affecting the health and ability of those who’ve passed on their genes. He skirts around this, and I find some fault in (4/6)

        3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. jzkarap‏ @jzkarap Apr 18
        Replying to @jzkarap @creaytive and

        his ability to admit the central point, but he’s never as far as I can tell outright denied it. Only called attention to its context, (5/6)

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      9. jzkarap‏ @jzkarap Apr 18
        Replying to @jzkarap @creaytive and

        which he feels supplants its importance. (6/6)

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Philip Ball‏ @philipcball Apr 18
        Replying to @sapinker

        But as I show in the article Steven, the "left's tabula rasa myth" is perhaps itself something of a straw man. Most scientists I know are lefties, and never had any problem with the heritability of intelligence. Ditto teachers, apparently. @NewStatesman

        13 replies 9 retweets 97 likes
      3. James Hannam‏ @DrJamesHannam Apr 18
        Replying to @philipcball @sapinker @NewStatesman

        People are fine with genes having some influence but still have trouble with accepting that upbringing and even schooling have much less influence than we thought.

        2 replies 4 retweets 57 likes
      4. James Hannam‏ @DrJamesHannam Apr 18
        Replying to @DrJamesHannam @philipcball and

        Also there is a big difference between paying lip service and accepting the implications.

        1 reply 2 retweets 43 likes
      5. Philip Ball‏ @philipcball Apr 18
        Replying to @DrJamesHannam @sapinker @NewStatesman

        As @Emilydsw said, there are no *necessary* policy implications for education: how you interpret that may well depend on your political leanings. Thus the need for a frank debate!

        3 replies 0 retweets 33 likes
      6. David‏ @creaytive Apr 18
        Replying to @philipcball @DrJamesHannam and

        For the uninitiated: How could sorting kids into classes with other kids of similar expectable performance outcomes not necessarily be a policy implication of this? So that every kid at every level

        3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. David‏ @creaytive Apr 18
        Replying to @creaytive @philipcball and

        Has the opportunity to learn as much as they possibly can?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Philip Ball‏ @philipcball Apr 18
        Replying to @creaytive @DrJamesHannam and

        So kids of lowest ability learn as much as they possibly can be being with other kids of lowest ability? That doesn't seem obvious to me.

        3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      9. David‏ @creaytive Apr 18
        Replying to @philipcball @DrJamesHannam and

        basic theory is kids that learn at similar speeds are more likely to benefit from the questions asked by similar students in class, and a teacher noting that multiple kids in that class struggle with specific material can adjust pace in a way that will help a higher portion

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
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      2. chaddattilio‏ @chaddattilio Apr 18
        Replying to @sapinker

        I’d be more excited about finding the heritability / genes responsible for wisdom, compassion, magnanimity, tolerance, and empathy because I think those lead to more fulfilling lives and have more value to the world.

        7 replies 1 retweet 24 likes
      3. Mat Schramm‏ @MatSchramm Apr 26
        Replying to @chaddattilio @sapinker

        Aren’t these are mostly IQ related?

        11 replies 0 retweets 20 likes
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