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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker 19 Dec 2017

    Jonathan Haidt on the two threats to liberal democracy: the right wing in politics, and the left wing on campus.https://www.city-journal.org/html/age-outrage-15608.html …

    8:08 PM - 19 Dec 2017
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      2. Paul Cantrell‏ @inthehands 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        The two threats to world food safety: climate change and less flavorful varieties of tomato.

        1 reply 4 retweets 117 likes
      3. Paul Cantrell‏ @inthehands 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @inthehands @sapinker

        The two threats to California homeowners: million-acre wildfires and spilling coffee on the rug.

        1 reply 3 retweets 85 likes
      4. Paul Cantrell‏ @inthehands 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @inthehands @sapinker

        The two threats to useful things coming from this article: carless false equivalency and I can’t think of the second right now.

        1 reply 5 retweets 78 likes
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      2. Aaron Don't Just Vote, Volunteer!‏Verified account @aaronhuertas 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        One of these groups has a lot of power, the other doesn't. One of these groups systemically suppresses black votes to hold onto power, the other doesn't. So, I have trouble seeing the link here.

        4 replies 4 retweets 242 likes
      3. Aaron Don't Just Vote, Volunteer!‏Verified account @aaronhuertas 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @aaronhuertas @sapinker

        There are a lot of dichotomies I just don't buy into this paragraph, but fundamentally, politics IS about power and that's the lens through which theorists and practitioners think about it.pic.twitter.com/IJmX09jiR5

        5 replies 2 retweets 67 likes
      4. Aaron Don't Just Vote, Volunteer!‏Verified account @aaronhuertas 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @aaronhuertas @sapinker

        There's also an assumption here that justice-seeking movements are somehow identifying good vs. bad people and that's not the case. It's people vs. oppressive institutions, e.g. banks and school that leave students with crushing loans or Republicans who adopt racial gerrymanders.

        4 replies 2 retweets 58 likes
      5. Aaron Don't Just Vote, Volunteer!‏Verified account @aaronhuertas 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @aaronhuertas @sapinker

        So, overall, I don't think arguments like this are truly grappling with the core issues civil rights advocates have actually raised. And when I think about good academic responses to our politics, I think of work like this: https://sites.tufts.edu/gerrymandr/ 

        2 replies 4 retweets 41 likes
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      7. Aaron Don't Just Vote, Volunteer!‏Verified account @aaronhuertas 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @upine @sapinker

        This isn't consistent with how civil rights activists talk about justice and equity issues, in my experience. The author also doesn't address fundamental issues around political representation, e.g. voting rights, which are foundational to this conversation.

        2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
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      2. Register To Vote, Then Vote.‏ @wetcasements 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @nicknotned

        um, I think a multi-trillion dollar giveaway to the top 1% is more a threat to Democracy than a dude in a Che t-shirt...

        3 replies 8 retweets 398 likes
      3. your very own monica bellucci dream‏ @DJCPI 20 Dec 2017
        Replying to @wetcasements @sapinker @nicknotned

        YEAH BUT I SAW HIM SMOKING

        2 replies 0 retweets 185 likes
      4. socialistly awkward, PhD‏ @socialistawk 20 Dec 2017
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        pic.twitter.com/7t7A7Zb14M

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      2. Ken Robert‏ @KenRobertWrites 21 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        The Pinker Principle: Academic celebrities eventually rise to a level of fame where they’re convinced they possess unique insights and superior knowledge regarding subjects outside their area of expertise.

        7 replies 43 retweets 164 likes
      3. AukeHoekstra‏ @AukeHoekstra 21 Dec 2017
        Replying to @KenRobertWrites @sapinker

        Unfortunately agree. I deeply value @sapinker his insight on violence and conflict but in my field of expertise (energy systems) he is often as self assured as he is cringe worthy.

        1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      4. AukeHoekstra‏ @AukeHoekstra 21 Dec 2017
        Replying to @AukeHoekstra @KenRobertWrites @sapinker

        However, I don't see how it's relevant here. I can't find much to object to in Jonathan Haidts piece. Freedom of education and expression without being told what is acceptable by a small group seems like a good idea. What's your objection?

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      5. Ken Robert‏ @KenRobertWrites 22 Dec 2017
        Replying to @AukeHoekstra @sapinker

        I object to Pinker’s suggestion these are two equally imposing threats, but he’s just one of several icons of logic who seem happy to engage in false equivalencies and straw-man arguments when it suits their purpose. In their defense, this is what humans do.

        1 reply 0 retweets 16 likes
      6. AukeHoekstra‏ @AukeHoekstra 22 Dec 2017
        Replying to @KenRobertWrites @sapinker

        I don't see a mention of the equivalence. Just a reminder that academics should be free to engage in discourse and the mention that you need this centripetal force that binds together people that do not agree.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. Ken Robert‏ @KenRobertWrites 22 Dec 2017
        Replying to @AukeHoekstra @sapinker

        I see.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. AukeHoekstra‏ @AukeHoekstra 22 Dec 2017
        Replying to @KenRobertWrites @sapinker

        I just realized that you probably just read the tweet and not the article. I agree that the first "the" in Pinker's tweet is overdoing it a bit since there are many more threats to liberal democracy. But don't you agree that free discourse on universities is important?

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Ken Robert‏ @KenRobertWrites 22 Dec 2017
        Replying to @AukeHoekstra @sapinker

        I do, however, find it ridiculous that Haidt would ask us to wonder what men who saw fit to enslave other human beings would think of the horrors of safe spaces.

        1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
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