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Cognitive scientist at Harvard.

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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker 17 Dec 2017

    Romanticizing the Hunter-Gatherer: NB homicide rate (mean of 15 samples): 303/100K (median=169). Compare modern homicide rate: 6/100K. Or war death rate for 2016: 1.2/100K. http://quillette.com/2017/12/16/romanticizing-hunter-gatherer/ … via @QuilletteM

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      1. Jordan Comfort‏ @ComfortJordan 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Jared Diamonds ‘The World Until Yesterday’ is a great read for anyone interested in the differences between traditional societies and modern societies

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      1. Gardner Heist‏ @gardnerheist 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @booksnips @QuilletteM

        To the farmer, the thing that is different is a weed, to the hunter-gatherer it is dinner.

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      2. Dissent is Patriotic‏ @FordBD 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        pretending you can calculate the murder rate in Hunter gatherer societies is the height of scientific hubris.

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      3. Nathan Spears‏ @spearofsolomon 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @FordBD @sapinker @QuilletteM

        They look at hunter gatherer societies that still exist . . .

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      4. Call Of Spooky: Ghosts‏ @PomoPsiOp 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @spearofsolomon @FordBD and

        Hunter gatherer societies that haven't been forced off their land by agrarian and industrial societies.

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      5. Dissent is Patriotic‏ @FordBD 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @PomoPsiOp @QuilletteM and

        which is a tiny, insignificant fraction of the total HG societies that have existed. Extrapolations from that are bunk.

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      6. Nathan Spears‏ @spearofsolomon 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @FordBD @PomoPsiOp and

        DNA from the fossil record would fit into the same argument. Should we abandon science and go back to guessing?

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      2. k-s sirkka‏ @k272479 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Is Living the ultimate goal ?

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      3. Sean Jason Webb‏ @SeanJasonWebb 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @k272479 @sapinker @QuilletteM

        It is important for all other goals.

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      4. k-s sirkka‏ @k272479 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @SeanJasonWebb @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Not at all ... in fact, not at All. ’Goals’ are totally irrelevant for the non-living

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      6. Jake Anderson‏ @jake_anderson44 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @ES_4P @k272479 and

        Go look at that guys account and that's not even a hot take compared to the rest of the shit that goes through this guy's head

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      2. Roger Wilson‏ @civicdec 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        I recall reading a collection of american indian accounts of life prior to significant European contact: Profound physical insecurity mentioned by several.

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      3. Rene Ropac‏ @RopacRene 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @civicdec @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Interesting, do you know the author/title of that reading by any chance?

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      4. Roger Wilson‏ @civicdec 18 Dec 2017
        Replying to @RopacRene @sapinker @QuilletteM

        I think it was "Touch the Earth" compiled by T. C. McLuhan, Simon & Schuster 1971. The entries are definitely not saying Europeans improved the lot of Indians.

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      2. Dillon Freed‏ @dillonfreed 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @MrGeorgeOrwell @sapinker and

        flagged

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      2. Glenn Sullivan‏ @clinpsychbook 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        What about the hunter-gatherer rates for suicide and drug abuse? Civilization has its discontents.

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