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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker 17 Nov 2017

    Steven Pinker Retweeted Belfer Center

    Nuclear energy does not lead to nuclear weapons.https://twitter.com/BelferCenter/status/931507454659256320 …

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    Belfer Center @BelferCenter
    Nuclear Energy and the Spread of Nuclear Weapons: How Worried Should We Be? http://hvrd.me/mQwT30gBvf4  @Journal_IS
    11:05 AM - 17 Nov 2017
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      2. Martin Morrey‏ @martinmorrey 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        It does lead to plutonium

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Sean JS Chen‏ @seanjschen 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @martinmorrey @sapinker

        Yes but the wrong isotope mix of plutonium

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Aaron Davis‏ @AaronDa44194950 18 Nov 2017
        Replying to @seanjschen @martinmorrey @sapinker

        Ive read a few books on Manhattan and the history of nuclear physics, but i dont remember reading that. Twitter can be a good thing after all 😊

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Ron West‏ @ron__west 18 Nov 2017
        Replying to @AaronDa44194950 @seanjschen and

        I believe it depends on the reactor design; for example, Chernobyl was a type that produced power *and* weapons material

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Sean JS Chen‏ @seanjschen 18 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ron__west @AaronDa44194950 and

        Exactly. That reactor was designed overwhelmingly for weapons production. It allowed for easy “toasting” for weapons Pu but also made it an extremely unsafe power reactor, as the accident has shown.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Krème de la Krèmlin‏ @ztarasj 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        Sure, it just leads to human rights abuses, massive health crises (ask the Navajo) bureaucratic bloat and corruption, environmental drestruction, and the occasional Fukushima. But hey, the world's getting better, so why worry, right Steve?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Neonomide‏ @Neonomide 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ztarasj @sapinker

        Navajo case was caused largely bc because of the nuclear arms race with the Soviet Union, not for nuclear power generation.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Krème de la Krèmlin‏ @ztarasj 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @Neonomide @sapinker

        This is a common dodge used by nuclear power advocates. The two are inextricable. First rush of uranium prospecting was ostensibly for power generation, but was caught up in WWII arms race, then cold war.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Anders Larsson‏ @tyngdlost 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ztarasj @Neonomide @sapinker

        Uranium is just mining. The popular alternatives to nuclear power will require even more mining for resources like copper and lithium.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Neonomide‏ @Neonomide 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @tyngdlost @ztarasj @sapinker

        Exactly.pic.twitter.com/u3ZI3SGIeC

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      2. Lloyd Jacobson  👨🏻‍💻‏ @HOUmanReporter 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        Doesn’t seem to address terrorist acquisition of materials for dirty bombs, intentional targeted attacks on nuke systems, or internal sabotage of a reactor. Gotta add that into the mix of considerations too.

        5 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Lloyd Jacobson  👨🏻‍💻‏ @HOUmanReporter 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HOUmanReporter @sapinker

        Bigger issue though still to me though is a growth in nuclear power (as currently known) will also have a predictable risk in accidents. And Chernobyl & Fukushima illustrate that both human nature and mother nature will find the gap in safety our planning.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Neonomide‏ @Neonomide 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HOUmanReporter @sapinker

        Yes, but both accidents have still been relatively small in human casualties, especially Fukushima. Not enough to freak out, at the very least.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Lloyd Jacobson  👨🏻‍💻‏ @HOUmanReporter 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @Neonomide @sapinker

        Soldiers who sacrificed in Chernobyl would tell you different, & long term health still uncertain for those near Fukushima. But even if there had been no deaths, look how many more dead cities on avg do you run risk of creating around the world as you ratchet up more plants?

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      6. Lloyd Jacobson  👨🏻‍💻‏ @HOUmanReporter 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HOUmanReporter @Neonomide @sapinker

        Im in Houston w/ tons of chemical plants. When they have an accident we recover & hopefully create new protections for ppl. If we had a nuke plant where Arkema had an uncontrolled explosion after hurricane Harvey, half of 4th largest US city would be closed now - for generations.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. yestiseye‏ @yestiseye 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HOUmanReporter @Neonomide @sapinker

        While the nuclear plant just outside Houston, just kept plugging away during Harvey. How about some credit for *not* "blowing-up" (which btw is not how controlled fission works).https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-30/as-harvey-raged-workers-slept-on-cots-to-keep-nuclear-power-on …

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Lloyd Jacobson  👨🏻‍💻‏ @HOUmanReporter 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @yestiseye @Neonomide @sapinker

        The South Texas nuke plant serves Houston, (as well as San Antonio, Austin, etc.) on the statewide grid, but is 2 hours outside of Houston. It’s not a comparable comparison to chem plants and refineries im taking about that are in city limits, or Arkema which is in a suburb.

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      9. Lloyd Jacobson  👨🏻‍💻‏ @HOUmanReporter 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @HOUmanReporter @yestiseye and

        Also South Texas was so rife with problems, delays and concerns about its original plans, it underscores all the cost issues with nuclear. Particularly in developed nations. Much of that would likely be ignored in developing nations but more disasters will likely follow.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      1. runner_wild‏ @trainer54321 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        We have one future...nuclear energy....

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      2. Forest Spirit‏ @EarthenBlueSky7 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        But nuclear energy leads to nuclear accidents, 100% sure with enough time. A bad accident every 30 years..

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Neonomide‏ @Neonomide 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @EarthenBlueSky7 @sapinker

        And how bad the accidents have been in comparison to fossil fuels?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Forest Spirit‏ @EarthenBlueSky7 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @Neonomide @sapinker

        Very bad.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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