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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker 13 Nov 2017

    Racial justice advocates err in linking racism w capitalism - it's the other way around. Marxism has long been tied to racism (which is, most often, bad for business). Marian Tupy explains.https://capx.co/sBokW 

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      2. albeit‏ @albeit 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        Capitalism IS freedom of individuals to trade, make contract and to own results of your labor. That IS anti-slavery.

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      3. Katimir Lenin‏ @metallichuck 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @albeit @sapinker

        No. The factory owner owns the product of factory workers labor.

        2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      4. albeit‏ @albeit 15 Nov 2017
        Replying to @metallichuck @sapinker

        A worker is also free to take their labor elsewhere. That's what freedom is.

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      5. Katimir Lenin‏ @metallichuck 15 Nov 2017
        Replying to @albeit @sapinker

        Freedom is choosing a different person to exploit you. Brilliant.

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      6. albeit‏ @albeit 15 Nov 2017
        Replying to @metallichuck @sapinker

        It is brilliant. We make our living by doing something that others value. And that is as true for the employer as it is for the employee

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      7. Katimir Lenin‏ @metallichuck 16 Nov 2017
        Replying to @albeit @sapinker

        Thats why NO ONE works a job they hate to get by.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      8. albeit‏ @albeit 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @metallichuck @sapinker

        Plenty of people do. But others have to value the results or they wouldn't pay money for it

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      9. Katimir Lenin‏ @metallichuck 17 Nov 2017
        Replying to @albeit @sapinker

        Why doesn't an employer pay the employee the value they create for the employer? The employer isn't necessary for production yet they benifit the most from it

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      2. Alistair Stewart‏ @psycholdham 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        yeah, those Marxists and the slave trade, and American slavery, and the colonization of India China and Africa, and apartheid, those Marxists

        2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
      3. Pteranodon‏ @twbrann 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @psycholdham @sapinker

        The Marxists used slave labor too. They were called gulags.

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      2. Kapphaaaaaaahn‏ @kikapp 13 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        *Steps over centuries of demonstrably racist capitalism in the US* "Don't these socialism-embracing racial justice activists know that socialists are the real racists?"

        1 reply 1 retweet 14 likes
      3. Apollo Neptune‏ @ApolloNeptune 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @kikapp @sapinker

        There is no such thing as "racial justice" there is only justice. And you can't even name any liberal philosopher or economist that advocated racism, from Smith to Mises and Rand.

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      4. Kapphaaaaaaahn‏ @kikapp 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @ApolloNeptune @sapinker

        LOL #AllJusticeMatters

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      2. Graham Taylor‏ @GrahamTaylor42 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        Steven, the Marian Tupy is an entirely scurrilous piece - before 1939 racism was normal with nearly all intellectuals, not just Marxists.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Cheryl‏ @cherylanne78 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @GrahamTaylor42 @sapinker

        I also do not believe you can entirely separate these issues. Many things can contribute to racial inequality, capitalism included.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Jeff Brooks‏ @JeBroo5 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @cherylanne78 @GrahamTaylor42 @sapinker

        The opposite is true. Capitalism, globalism & free trade markets are eradicating poverty. The world's poorest have been the biggest beneficiaries & it's not even close. http://humanprogress.org/blog/the-worlds-poorest-people-are-getting-richer-faster-than-anyone-else?utm_content=buffer3c2d9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer …

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      5. Cheryl‏ @cherylanne78 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @JeBroo5 @GrahamTaylor42 @sapinker

        Not on their own. Economic growth of a country only goes so far, it doesn’t eradicate poverty on its own. Inequality greatly reduces the impact of the growth on the poor. Health, education and social safety nets all contribute.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Jeff Brooks‏ @JeBroo5 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @cherylanne78 @GrahamTaylor42 @sapinker

        Health and education have prospered under capitalism. The world has never been more literate, the lifespan across the globe is higher than ever, and crime & warfare are in massive decline.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Jeff Brooks‏ @JeBroo5 14 Nov 2017
        Replying to @JeBroo5 @cherylanne78 and

        But you're right. Capitalism/free trade alone is insufficient to explain wealth increase. A key ingredient is missing: redistribution! Indeed, when a country generates so much capital, it gets redistributed in ways that decrease poverty even more!pic.twitter.com/7GIQa8SJsv

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